tonyb

Little Cleo used to make a silver belly, medium green back spoon with red spots and gold bars. I lost the one I had. A big brown took it from me and I have yet to see it in a search almost everywhere. Acme discontinued the color some time ago from what they tell me. I can honestly say it was one of the deadliest Cleos ever tied to my line. I have to go buy some paint and an airbrush I guess.

Speaking of Little Cleo changes, who here remembers when the back of the blank had an imprint of a topless mermaid/woman? Very nicely defined nipples I might add

I still have a couple that I regularly use...not worried about losing them, but I wonder if they are worth anything nowadays?

My fav discontinued lures are the original firetiger Jigging Rapala...now it's got some techno stripes instead of the bold, contrasting perch like pattern of the old design.

Also, Storm lures made a great 4 inch rattling pink worm that was deadly on steelhead, also discontinued

I'm sure there are more...and as some good lures become discontinued there are always new ones popping up to try out

Tony

Great work Billy, you've got us Canadian salmon guys excited about this event too!

I heard about it through the grapevine and can honestly say that judging by the format, you will have a full field in no time, and this surely will draw some folks from the North Shore

Best of luck, looking forward to this event.

Tony

The website says 'Due to Rights Restrictions' fishbear.

Basically what that tells me is that PBS is probably available on cable or satellite tv here, so they are forced to remove other means of distribution (e.g. their website) because the Canadian T.V. providers are paying broadcast rights to PBS.

I would wage that any U.S. television network would block Canadian visitors from viewing full episodes online for free.

Worse yet, is I tried to purchase the NHL Center Ice package to follow my local teams games online (no television at home) and they are all blacked out because of broadcast rights. The Cable and Satellite television providers want to funnel people into subscribing, rather than obtaining their content from other means of distribution, such as the Internet.

They can see the writing on the wall, with companies like Netflix popping up, so they counter that by implementing bandwidth usage caps, you can only download so much before you have to pay for overages.

Organized Crime indeed...

Happy Thanksgiving...bring on the meat sweats!

K Gonefishin...I didn't realize Jim was so experienced. That level of experience alone, can sometimes be a problem, when you have too much confidence bait/presentation to try something truly different to get the fish biting.

If I've learned anything from tough days fishing and worse, in tournaments, it's that somewhere, someone, is pounding fish and has figured out the equation for that moment in time. It's very rare that when boats around you are catching fish that you can't keep changing things up to get them to go in your own way. Active fish are active fish, simple.

It sounds like in similar conditions another angler was able to adapt and be rewarded with success.

Here's the exerpt from that same thread, and represents exactly what I'm talking about with respect to paying attention to details, and intellectually experimenting until you start catching.

Member Shortdrift says: "Big boards were catching fish and kittle boards were not in 3 to 4 foot waves. I finally set two flat lines thinking in terms of the boat reducing the surge and we started catching fish. Not as many as the big boards but enough to tell me that the presentation with less surge was the key."

Member Jim replies: "Nice!! Great thinking (or at least ... better than mine.) Never gave that a thought."

So this is the explanation for the NR license fee increase from $40 to $70 last year

Thanks for the heads up, PBS blocks us canucks from viewing the show from their website.

I was able to find it locally and watched it last night...what a great show with some excellent footage. I have a much greater appreciation and understanding for this elusive critter now after watching. I really like the attitude of these beasts...kind of makes me want to be all wolverine like

I love nature shows

If you are going to buy a floater suit, spend the money and buy quality the first time around.

I use my floater on open water for spring kings, fall walleye on the bay of quinte, winter fishing the lower niagara river, and harbours/rivermouths from shore, and also for ice-fishing early and late season.

Due to the variety of conditions that can be faced, I wanted a high-quality survival suit that would last and also that was...WATERPROOF!

I've had a cheaper floater suit before that was water resistant but you'd get wet after a couple of hours of driving wind and rain, and it deteriorated after about 5 years.

The ONLY floater suit that I have found to be basically a Gore-Tex rainsuit shell with the floater suit guts underneath is the Mustang Integrity HX Flotation Suite- http://www.mustangsurvival.com/products/product.php?id=547

It's not a cheap suit at $500 CDN but I am extremely pleased with how DRY and warm it keeps me...not to mention safe if anything were to ever go wrong.

I just wish they made it in 2-piece but they do not (Only the Integrity HX jacket...not pants)

An interesting discussion for sure...but I got the impression the original poster was paying a little too much attention to what everyone around him was doing to get their fish and not putting the effort into finding a working spread on his boat.

Keying in on just the board, big vs small, is neglecting some of the other very important factors that must be calculated first (speed, depth, bait profile, etc)

I don't do a lot of open water trolling for eyes but if it's anything like salmon trolling, trying to mimic another boats presentation that is working for them can be futile.

It's always more rewarding and consistent when you can start with what works for you (the confidence presentation), and then make adjustments based on what the weather, conditions and fish are telling you.

I know from what little experience I have, that by doing this you'll gain confidence and perhaps also discover some tweaked strategies that other guys aren't using that can give you the 'edge' over the competition

Thanks for sharing that interesting discussion from another board jimski

Very cool catching 'em on the bucktails perch predator!

Thanks for the confirmation Ken, we're on the same page...I wanted to be certain as it seemed to good to be true!

For once, this is some good news!

I'm thinking of fishing Olcott Pier for trout...casting lures with 1 rod, and another rod fished on bottom with a worm or eggs. Should be effective...passive and active methods for trying to catch one of those feisty, white-mouthed beauties

In reviewing the NYSDEC website I stumbled upon a fishign regulation that I was surprised to read.

I read this in the regulations, but can't believe it! so I just wanted to confirm that this is correct:

"An angler may operate no more than two lines with or without a rod"

I know in Ontario, Canada we can only run 2 lines when in a boat on the Great Lakes or ice fishing...but that reads to me like 2 rods could be used in any method of fishing in New York State.

Thanks guys! I'm already trying to figure out how to cast a spinner and drift a float at the same time

Tony

we use the depth raider. when it works it works good. it seems inconsistant. it will just loose signal for no reason. so the x4 does not have an antenna like the depth raider? i like the big display. i see it has 4 readings. what are they all?

There is no antenna.

There is a transducer that is mounted alongside your sonar transducer, and the probe transmits wirelessly to the transducer. As rolmops said, The readings are speed and temp at surface and speed and temp at the probe. Unfortunately I lost the surface paddlewheel as it busted off the first time I broke the plastic transducer. Surface speed doesn't matter to me as much.

They are around $700 in Ontario and $600 in N.Y.

Tony

Another vote for the Fish-Hawk X4. However, be sure to request the metal transducer bracket from the dealer. I went through 2 of the plastic ones last year...they broke while running out to the grounds, must have come into contact with debris or perhaps just the force of pounding across waves.

It has a nice LARGE screen, and best of all, NO COATED CABLE!

In my opinion this makes this down speed-n-temp sensor one of the better units out there. For example, if you were to have a downrigger fail, cable break, etc. You can simply clip the X-4 probe onto another downrigger on the same boat, and you're back up and running.

Tony

Great read, one can never be too informed on the dangers of being on the water, especially on the big lakes.

One of the challenges at this time of year is trying to be safe but also comfortable. The air temperatures are usually too warm to wear a full floatation suit, so I usually opt for my auto-inflateable vest. It's better than nothing, but I would still get hypothermia if I were to ever end up in the drink for an extended period of time.

What do you guys do to stay safe on the water when it's too hot for floatation gear, but the water is freezing?

Tony

Name: Tony Bolger

Location: Burlington, ON

Home Port: Bronte

Boat Name/Type: 'Ripple Effect' - Lund 1900 ProV IFS/SE

I fish for: Everything that swims

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I was just recently referred to this site and I am impressed so far. It looks like another great groupd of die-hard salmonid chasers here. I'm looking forward to sharing some reports from the North side of Lake O. as well as whatever other ports I chase the fish to.

I had a great first year on the big pond with my new boat last year, looking to build on that fun in 2010!

Here's my rig:

See you on the water!

Tony