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    Question about lower niagara

    in New York Fishing Reports - Lake Ontario (South Shore)

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    Lewiston is the only place to launch when the shore ice starts to form. Fort Niagara is not maintained during the winter, you can launch there if the docks are not iced in.

    Lewiston maintains their docks and even send a toen backhoe down to clear the ice out, they also keep a salt pile and a shovel at the dock.

    as long as you have an outboard motor you are all set, when you pull out of the water just lower the motor all the way down and hit the key for a couple seconds to clear water from the pump.

    as for clothes, I wear a Buoy o buoy survival suit I bought in Port Dalhousie from Peter's Tackle, at the time with the exchange rate I paid about 170.00 american. It keeps me warm all day long and is flotation as well. Under it all I need is a pair of fleece pants and a fleece sweat shirt.

    what size boat do you plan on using on the lower river ?

    if you need any more information shoot me an email or PM

    Devil's Hole

    in New York Fishing Reports - Lake Ontario (South Shore)

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    I have a little thing I do to increase my catch of salmon, when I am fishing skein or egg sack I add a miniature marshmallow as a float to keep the bait up off the bottom a little. I use a 3way with a dropper line to the sinker not longer that 12 to 15 inches long to stay very close to the bottom, not dragging it on bottom but ticking or feeling bottom all along the drift. I started adding the marshmallow to act as a float, but I am not sure if it works because of that or the salmon smell the marshmallow scent or if its the contrast in color to the skein or egg sack. I do know it makes a difference for me. It works especially well when the fishing is tough and not many being caught.

    Something I do not do is set the hook, when I feel the weight of a salmon I just start reeling up. If I set the hook I loose more salmon.

    TANGLER The hole is a safe place to fish as long as you remember where you are, respect the river, pay attention to where you are in relation to the power plant outlets and other boats. Do not drift down in front of the power plant outlets as that is where the whirlpools can form very fast. Have your main motor running and end the drift at the fishing platform and then go back up for another drift.

    Devil's Hole

    in New York Fishing Reports - Lake Ontario (South Shore)

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    the lower river can be dangerous as the water drops when they are pulling water for the power plant reservoir, then when they stop pulling water the level rises real quick and you can get trapped out on a rock real easy.

    fishing the devils hole in a boat can be very productive if you know what you are doing, when you drift down and reach the end of the power plant fishing platform you better have your main motor running. Do not drift down in front of the power plant, a whirlpool can open in a heartbeat and your boat starts spinning and you find yourself caught in a whirlpool. If you get caught in a whirlpool turn your motor to the left and push the throttle ahead slowly, you will ride the whirlpool for a few turns and then it will spit your boat out. if you leave the motor straight and hit the throttle the rear of your boat goes down and you can take on a lot of water, this can cause your boat to go straight up on end and flip over. that is what happened to a guy a few years ago, the Capt and 1 passenger drown and one passenger was rescued by another boat.

    It is a great place to fish if you are knowledgeable and respect the river and its powerful current and whirlpools. Pay close attention to where you are and the water level. You can drift over rocks and not know they are there, a half hour later on the same drift you will hit the rocks because they started pulling water for the power plant and it is now shallower.

    I like to use a baitcaster reel with 15 lb line to a 3 way swivel then about a 12 to 17 inch 8 lb test dropper to a 2.5 ounce pencil weight, using about a 7 to 9 foot leader also 15 lb test with either a quick fish lure or a small hook size 6, 8 or 10 with egg sacks or skein. Gold quickfdish with green scales or green spots seem to work really good. Egg sacks in orange, pink or green work at different times and conditions. When you feel the weight of a fish don't set the hook, just start reeling, keeping the line tight and the fish will be already hooked. More times than not if you set the hook you will loose the salmon.

    I hope this helps someone to safely catch some salmon

    GReat post. I have a lot of respect for that river. Last weekend was the first time i fished it and it was a little stressful. So many boats. It seemed like a lot of guys are use to the traffic. We meat a charter guide the day we arrived at the hardware store in Lewiston. He was telling us if we start talking water over the transom, just let it happen. Then he told us about a guide who flipped his boat trying to throttle it after he started taking in water. **** is crazy. Really, people should wear a pfd. if you go over board in that river your done.

    I don't know about just letting it happen if you start taking water over the transom, if yuou are caught in a whirlpool and it is pulling your stern down enough to take on water. I would not just let it happen. The more water you take in the lower in the water your stern goes, a lot of those whirlpools are strong enough to stand your boat right up on end and either flip you over or pull the boat down, either way you are going in the water. Those whirlpools are strong enough to stand a telephone pole on end and suck it down completely under water. As I posted earlier, turn the wheel to the left and throttle slowly up, ride the whirlpool around a few times and it will spit your boat out.

    As far as a life jacket, the coast guard has said they are not sure if one would help if you fell in. If the whirlpools are strong enough to stand a boat on end or a telephone pole then I doubt there is any question as to if it will pull a person under wearing a life jacket.

    Devil's Hole

    in New York Fishing Reports - Lake Ontario (South Shore)

    Posted

    the lower river can be dangerous as the water drops when they are pulling water for the power plant reservoir, then when they stop pulling water the level rises real quick and you can get trapped out on a rock real easy.

    fishing the devils hole in a boat can be very productive if you know what you are doing, when you drift down and reach the end of the power plant fishing platform you better have your main motor running. Do not drift down in front of the power plant, a whirlpool can open in a heartbeat and your boat starts spinning and you find yourself caught in a whirlpool. If you get caught in a whirlpool turn your motor to the left and push the throttle ahead slowly, you will ride the whirlpool for a few turns and then it will spit your boat out. if you leave the motor straight and hit the throttle the rear of your boat goes down and you can take on a lot of water, this can cause your boat to go straight up on end and flip over. that is what happened to a guy a few years ago, the Capt and 1 passenger drown and one passenger was rescued by another boat.

    It is a great place to fish if you are knowledgeable and respect the river and its powerful current and whirlpools. Pay close attention to where you are and the water level. You can drift over rocks and not know they are there, a half hour later on the same drift you will hit the rocks because they started pulling water for the power plant and it is now shallower.

    I like to use a baitcaster reel with 15 lb line to a 3 way swivel then about a 12 to 17 inch 8 lb test dropper to a 2.5 ounce pencil weight, using about a 7 to 9 foot leader also 15 lb test with either a quick fish lure or a small hook size 6, 8 or 10 with egg sacks or skein. Gold quickfdish with green scales or green spots seem to work really good. Egg sacks in orange, pink or green work at different times and conditions. When you feel the weight of a fish don't set the hook, just start reeling, keeping the line tight and the fish will be already hooked. More times than not if you set the hook you will loose the salmon.

    I hope this helps someone to safely catch some salmon

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