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    Transom replacement

    in This Old Boat

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    True. And i am pretty sure it was left out at least for the last couple years as it sat in a slip. I can see how if you ever puncture the hull the foam would keep the water from pouring in. It was wettest at the transom where i believe the water was coming in around the transducer holes and bolts that hold the transom in.

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    Transom replacement

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    The main reason why foam is the preferred material in spite of all the bad rap it is getting is that it sticks to the bottom of the boat. If you ever are in a sinking boat, you want the flotation material to be sticking to the boat without any empty spaces that will fill up with water before you know it. You do not want material that is loose, because the upward force may very well lift the floor of your boat and then all that flotation material will escape and your boat will sink.

    I agree, but foam completely saturated is not helping much either. Especially when it assists in the degradation of your transom which if it fails could cause you to sink. I think the foam starcraft used wasn't much good. Im researching the pour in foam also, just hate to have to do this again. It seems there is not really a good way to do it without spending a ton of money on flooring that cannot rot.

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    Transom replacement

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    What symptoms gave you clues it was a bad transom ?

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    It was rotten. You could push a screw driver through it in spots. Especially where the foam touched it in the bottom side corners. The floor has a lot of soft spots in it too. Didnt realize how bad the plywood was until i pulled up the vinyl. The foam was actually supporting it. The foam was completely saturated with water as well as the plywood that was in contact with the foam.

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    Transom replacement

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    The old transom is out and boy is it rotten. I'm thinkin I'm gonna use pool noodles or pipe insulation under the floor. Hopefully that will allow water to flow out and not soak up water. I'm thinkin that that may help to keep the floor dryer. Im probably gonna order the marine plywood for the whole boat but may use exterior on the floor if it doesnt look to bad. The old stuff i pulled up the glue was still sticking like crazy, just the wood was toast.
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    Transom replacement

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    Let me give you some out of the box ideas. First you can replace the foam, remove it, replace the floor, drill 1 inch holes in the floor about 1 foot apart to pour the new foam back in. It will be good until it soaks again....say 5 years if left outside.... longer than you will have the boat if you store it inside.
     
    OR. fill the void with pingpong balls...the objective is only to displace water so the balls will work better than foam and never saturate any additional water can simply drain by.  Archimedes principles of flotation require only dry displacement....foam does NOT make a boat float, it only displaces water. 
     
    as for the transom.... I have used wood, wood/epoxy, wood/epoxy and aluminum plate and seacast. If I was doing a starcraft I would do a seacast, or a large cut out plate around the lower unit and simply foam in the space.
     
     

    The ping pong ball idea may just be genius! But how many friggin ping pong balls would that take? My guess would be more than the world beer pong championships would need x2! They are however fairly cheap in quantity.

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    Transom replacement

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    It will all need to be removed. Check the rivetts on the bottom for loose or missing ones. My Islander had a small hole that the foam hid. The cheap replacement is pool noodles. They are a closed cell foam that is great flotation. It is a messy and frustrating job. I used 3/4 exterior plywood from Lowes. I should have stuck with the 1/2 inch. I replaced the foam with sheets of Styrofoam SM and pool noodles. The foam gets saturated because the water has no way to drain to the bildge. If you need more help let me know. The Holiday is an Islander without the cabin. It actually has more usable space on it for fishing. I am considering trading for one.

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    My dad has an islander, same hull, but unbelievable how much more room mine has to fish. Only bad part is that i miss the cuddy for storage. The boat is an absolute animal in rough water. Gonna either buy or make a pontoon type couch seat for storage on the port side. After im done with the floor and transom of course. I have a feeling its gonna float like a cork though now. I pulled one garbage bag of foam out and it was all that 30 gallon bag could handle, 30-40 lbs.

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    Transom replacement

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    Take a look at Aluthane. I re did the transom of my Starcraft Islander 191 and was going to use epoxy until I found Aluthane from Progressive Epoxies. I bought a gallon and did the transom, the floors on both sides and used it as a primer on the outside of the transom. I have fished 3 years with these floors with no ware on the paint. The stuff is awesome.

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    I'll have to check in to that. Not the first I've heard of that stuff.

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    Transom replacement

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    I am in the process of replacing the rotted transom in my 89' starcraft holiday 221. I am debating whether to seal the new transom wood with epoxy or paint or just leave it bare. Sealing seems like a good idea, but if it somehow absorbs water it would be much harder for the moisture to escape, causing rot. In my expirience, moisture causes the wood to swell rendering any sealant cracked and useless. The boat won't be sitting outside uncovered or in the water for long periods of time. Has anyone used products other than wood? Just looking for some suggestions/shared experience. And any products that have worked well or flopped.

     

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    Cayuga 10/9

    in Finger Lakes Discussion

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    I was out saturday morning also. Fleas seemed thicker in spots, but were manegable. Weird to me to see them this late. I've spent most of my time on Ontario the last several years and they always seem to disapear around august. Did get 5 keeper landlocks, 5 or so throwback LL and 2 small lakers. Had several hits and misses, lost a big rainbow that hooked himself in the eye, that made it to the boat as he tail danced behind us. All between Meyers and AES.

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