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    Helix 7 for trolling?

    in Questions About Trout & Salmon Trolling?

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    Navico doesn't own Humminbird. Navico owns Lowrance, Simrad, and B&G.
     
    I've ran Humminbird units for many years. Even before I joined their Pro Team. The HELIX units are a quality unit packed with great features. For trolling you don't need DI or SI. I tell most guys to just buy their sonar/GPS models. Actually, the G2 models just had their MAP pricing lifted so you can get some great deals on them as the G3 units start to roll out. I run an AIRMAR thru-hull ducer on one boat, and a Humminbird transom mount on my other boat. Both are great ducers. On the thru-hull I can mark bait while running, and my cannon balls as deep as I want to. I can even mark my flasher down 250'. Not to toot my horn, but If you have any questions about Humminbird I'm sort of the local guru. Most manufacturers units will do everything you want it to do these days. It just gets down to understanding their units and how to navigate the menus. There are some VERY good videos on YouTube from a few guys that walk you through how to tweak your Humminbirds.
    Thanks for your input. The through hull ducers are a new concept to me and i will do some more reading about them.

    What I meant to say was not that Navico owns every big brand but that they own the software and own those companies that you referenced above. I was told that the other companies like Hummin and Garmin are just leasing the sonar /other software from Navico and produce their own hardware.

    Please define MAP.

    What do you mean when you say that you can mark bait when running? . Does this mean at 30mph or just while trolling.?

    Please also describe the performance on your regular ducer that is not a through hull.

    Thanks again

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    Helix 7 for trolling?

    in Questions About Trout & Salmon Trolling?

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    I have a Helix 7 and Helix 9 (both G2N CHIRP units), I can see my rigger balls down to like 90ft or so. Deeper than that I think I get too much blowback to see them. But I'm only running 12lb weights. Last year I ran 10lbs and could only see them to like 60ft, if you run 14lb+ you shouldn't have any problems. I have no problems marking fish or the bottom either. Can't say I have ever heard of Navico and others producing sub-par products. My guess is the clerk prolly had alot of Lowrance units in stock and was trying to move them.
    Thanks. Yes I'm thinking they probably get a good volume deal on lowrance units

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    Helix 7 for trolling?

    in Questions About Trout & Salmon Trolling?

    Posted

    Hey all. I've been very interested in getting one of these units probably because I have been suckered into their marketing and also the units looks very slick and really did not like that my old lowrance frequently freezes up. Not to mention there are some great deals on right now with the newest models coming out very soon.

     

    On a recent discussion with a shop clerk i was told that Navico owns all the big brands including lowrance and that everyone not Navico essentially buys the rights to use Navico software and produces sub par products.

     

    Can anyone comment specifically on experience with using hummingbirds for trolling for Salmon and walleye and if they have any trouble marking their cannon balls, fish, etc. at Lake Ontario depths? Thanks in advance!

     

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    TROPHY Boat recommendations

    in This Old Boat

    Posted

    i looked at a couple trophys and a seaswirl striper before i bought my current rig. there were things i liked about them but in the end i just didn't like how shallow they were, or how low the gunnels were. when i lean up against the sides or back of my boat, i want it to hit me at about mid-thigh or higher. both the trophy and the striper hit me just about at the top of my knee caps. i didn't like that at all. i really like the higher sides, which is one of the reasons i bought my current rig, super deep on the inside.
    That is a very good point. I want high sides and have not been in a Trophy yet. What boat did you end up getting?

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    TROPHY Boat recommendations

    in This Old Boat

    Posted

    The boat in my profile picture is my 2011 Trophy 2302 WA (last year made) with a Merc 250 Verado. I have had many boats and grew up on the water. It is not as solid as a Whaler, but, the same 23' in a Whaler if they made exactly the same model is 150K not 80K. My boat is 7 years old now and still looks like new. It has no broken parts and has seen several days of rough water and kids tubing every year.
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    That is one beautiful ride. Wish I could spare the cash for new... Maybe one day.

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    TROPHY Boat recommendations

    in This Old Boat

    Posted

    I ran a 2001 Trophy walkaround for a few years out of Chaumont Bay.  I really liked the ride and sturdiness of the boat in the chop and slop of eastern Lake Ontario.  Yes, they are owned by Bayliner, but from what I understand, Trophy started making their own boats in '99 or '00, and they got a lot better in quality, but still mid tier.  While I liked the ride, the stability and the fishability of it, there were a few things that pushed me to sell it.  I had the 21' and it got small really quick with 3 adults on it.  With an outboard, there is only a small hatch to get to the bilge, and you basically have to stand on your head to get just your arms down in to work on the pumps, etc.  That particular year and model had pump out fishboxes in the floor that were prone to fill up with rain water at the slip, or in the driveway.  They got swampy fast, and made the boat list to one side, or the other.  While the boats are newer construction there was still plywood in the floor of the cuddy, but I could not see the bulkheads, stringers, etc to examine them.  My particular model was under powered with a 125 Merc two stroke on it.  Make sure you have enough power for your needs. We had to run that 125 full blast all the time to get 28 MPH out of it.  Gas hog bad.  

     

    Hope that helps.  Good riding hulls, with poor layout.  

     

     

    thanks for the comments. It seems 150 is the more common motor on most of these so I guess between 150 and 200 hp might be more appropriate.

     

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    TROPHY Boat recommendations

    in This Old Boat

    Posted

    This year was my first year on my own boat and I purchased a 07 2052WA.  It has the 4.3 FI and for me it’s perfect!! Gas is very reasonable also.  Caught a lot of fish for my rookie year on her!!
    Do you find the 4.3 to be sufficient power on the rougher days... And what wave height have you been out in.

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    TROPHY Boat recommendations

    in This Old Boat

    Posted

    Very helpful guys. I really appreciate the info. I'm also considering a Pro-line but definitely will think about a Trophy. I like the layout of the walkaround models.

    I can't help but notice the gunwales are not that high in some of the images - maybe only above the knees. I find that a bit surprising considering these would be a deeper boat for rougher water.

     

     

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    TROPHY Boat recommendations

    in This Old Boat

    Posted

    Hey I am in the market for a boat and I've seen a few trophy 20'... they seem to be good boats but not sure. I often hear that bayliner suck (not strong construction??) and I think this is a bayliner model. . Was hoping to get comments from anyone that has owned one. Thanks all.

     

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