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  1. There are 2 main general currents in the lake. (double gyre) 


    The 1st starts at Niagara and follows the south shore all the way up to Henderson.  Some of it flows out the St Lawrence while the rest curves back and heads south hitting the south shore somewhere between Oswego/Sodus. It then circles back up the coast. 


    The 2nd starts at Niagara and flows along the north shore and goes up past Kingston where it meets the south shore current.  It is then deflected back west farther from shore and hooks southward at the Scotch Bonnet ridge towards Sandy/Braddocks and meets up with the south shore current.


    A strong easterly blow will slow the shore currents slightly and may shift the areas of south shore contact somewhat, however the lake recovers a couple days after the east wind dies out.  


    If I remember my hydrology correctly, pure wind action on water affects the water 5 to 6 times the wave height. 


    Currents on the lake are a "bear" to figure out on any given day which is why a down speed probe is a necessity.



  2. Concentrate on the riggers first, then move on to the other "stuff."  (Dipseys, cores, etc)


    - 1 lure in temp, 1 lure above and 1 below.


    - spooks (Black/silver with a splash of red)


    - Troll North & South watching temps.  Fish stable water. Temp probe on the deeper rigger.


    - Occasionally take down speed up to 3 or a little higher then slow back down.  Occasionally put it in neutral & let spoons flutter downward.


    - Run a MUP rig.  Two identical lures on a rigger about 10-12 ft apart vertically.  Run lower one about 15 ft behind the upper.  Can also try flasher/fly high with spoon low (same colors) but don't put it in neutral.


    - If you spot a scum line, troll to outside of it.  If you spot bait fish pod, troll to outside of it.  (Go at least 30FOW deeper then back in)  If you see birds, troll to the outside of them.


    - Keep your eyes on the water.  If you see minnows or fish swirling, then get a plug on the surface. (maybe only 4-5 ft down) 


    Good luck out there.




  3. Rochester is playing it up pretty good.  Downtown city supposed to have 3 min 34 sec of totality.  Buffalo to have 3 min & Syracuse to have under 2 min.  East of Syracuse won't have totality.  


    If heavy clouds, City will go pitch dark.  

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  4. Yahoo & The Weather Network posted an article about reporting any "weird" things that people observe during the eclipse and they're asking people to report events.  The site is eclipsesoundscapes.org. ) NOT an April Fool's Day joke) Apparently started by the Boston Society of Natural History years ago and has some NASA sponsorship.  So, if you notice bees returning to their hives; bats flying around; racoon coming out; crickets chirping; squirrels hiding; wind changes; etc. they encourage you to report it.  Sounds like a pretty neat thing to keep an eye on. 

  5. I'll be sitting on my back porch & should get a perfect view as neighbor cut down that tree.    There's no way I'd go to a park or be on the water.  People are generally nuts during the full moon so I can't imagine what they'll be like during a total eclipse!  


    If cloudy, which Rochester generally is, it should go totally dark.  Will be interesting to see if the street/expressway lights come on.

  6. Steering is the biggest problem when going solo.  I assume you have a smaller boat with manual steering.  Only using 1 planner and to a smaller extent, one dipsey will pull you boat to that side.  Best to run a pair to balance things out.  Going solo 99% of the time I used 2 riggers most of time.  

  7. Years ago, I had a 21 ft PennYann that weighed roughly 4K Lbs on a tandem axle roller trailer.  I was dumb enough to go fishing at the river in early November. (River ramp real steep with shallow water) I had a steel cable on the winch.  Upon retrieval, I got it roughly 3/4 of the way on the trailer and the cable snapped.  Pulled bow line right out of my hand.  Boat went back out in the river about 25 ft from end of dock.  Nobody else around so had to take the winter suit/boots off and go swimming.  Colder than all get out!  Got rid of that beast the following year. (for other reasons) My current smaller boat (18 ft;r) has a trailer that is half roller & half bunk. (Rollers on keel & at transom) It's never been a problem launching or retrieving. 

  8. Funny how some want govt vehemently out of their lives and yet so quickly change their tune when things aren't going their way.


    Yes, ecosystem is fragile.  Mussels changed things.  Takes years to recover, but recovery is happening.  Areas of Concern are being cleaned up.  Polution laws have gotten stricter. (no thanks to a certain political party) Bass are getting larger.  Alewives seem to be coming back.  Sturgeon are coming back.  Hatcheries are getting more than enough eggs.  Natural Repro is occuring.  Bass tournaments have grown but weigh ins  are more and more requiring live weigh ins. (Most Bass boats have live wells. )  If enough aren't "plucked out", the result is stunted fish. Problem I see is that not enough guys report violations that they witness.    



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  9. "Fishing" can be defined as "the activity of trying to catch fish."  


    I don't know anyone who thinks these inventions within the last 70 years make our fishing "unsporting":


    Electric downriggers
    Ball bearing swivels
    Fiberglass/graphite/combo rods
    Dipsy Divers
    Multiple gain, color screen fish finders with alarms
    Electronic temperature probes
    Floro & Copoly fishing lines
    GPS with waypoint memory
    Line counting reels
    Lead core/copper lines
    Contour following electronics
    Internet fishing websites


    How many ran right out & bought them?  None of them actually put fish in the boat, however, they were pretty progressive for their times, and most are commonplace today.  IMO, anyone against trying to make progress is stuck in their "horse & buggy" days. Doesn't matter to me how you fish (as long as it's legal), so enjoy it while you can. 

  10. Sorry, but I'm leery of lowering rpms. Police cars aren't necessarily normal stock cars. If my Ranger idles too long, the engine will automatically increase rpms.  I'm guessing some kind of heat control.  Lord knows what newer electronics will do.  (Make sure you're pumping sufficient water at lower rpm.)


    I used to have a merc 9.8 that would go as soon as it started.  I'd swear that the 2022 9.9 that I have now is cold blooded.  It has to run choked for 3-4 minutes to warm up before it'll run. (even with throttle control depressed, doesn't seem to significantly change warm up time). However, when warmed up it'll troll my 18 ft'r down to where I can troll X4 flatfish. (0.8 mph on GPS.)

  11. Discussion was about ANGLING as OP said "on the boat".  I suppose some might use a boat while ice fishing, but I don't know any. (hopefully.) I've seen cars, trucks, snowmobiles on the ice but never a boat. A guy once claimed he trolled on the ice and caught 200 Lbs of ice, but I never believed him.  DEC explicitly states ice fishing is not ANGLING.  (my caps)  


    I troll 3 rods all the time from my boat. (In the open water, never on ice) Very easy to do without tangles, if you know how.  I had a triple once, off two riggers (a major, a teenager and a bow) and nothing tangled plus all successfully released, while solo.   I've had numerous doubles out there solo, also with no tangles.  (hopefully, I'm not jinxing myself) With 2 on the boat, we only run 5, with 3 in same configuration as solo.  


  12. Semantics can be argued all day long.  I read the wording "and includes" to mean requires.  Yes, I realize you can land a bass via thumb in mouth (if you don't mind hooks in your fingers)'and you can tail a King.; (If you don't mind getting splashed.) and you can drag a fish to shore then scoop it out with your hands. With those in mind and the advent of the Boga type grip, maybe this reg should be re-written/clarified. 


    Use and possession of Gaff and Gaff hooks is explicitly prohibited on fresh water in New York State, in the general angling regulations.  Maybe regs say you can use them with tip-ups/downs somewhere, but I'm not aware of it. Tip-ups/downs are not considered angling. 


    I've seen those 2nd mortgage boats too.  

    $100K for the boat

    $45K for the power plant

    $50K for electronics

    $15K in rods/gear

    $85K for the truck to haul it all

    $2K for insurance

    for what?  One has to win a lot of tournaments to pay that back.  


    With old age comes wisdom and sometimes senility.



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