troubles

didnt catch a single fish on jplug this fall... run off riggers mainly and sometimes a copper or 10 color

 

you might get more responses if you posted these topics in open lake discussion or tackle and techniques

you want to buy some Kevin? I got lots!LOL.

What size are the evil eye's Casey? What color backs?

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That's because they buy bigger boats sometimes? LOL

2 & 3 sold

sold

You're always sea sick !!

If you believe them!

It's the birds that need attention ! But their protected and god only knows they help the NY economies so greatly.

I just read an article about the stocking in Lake Michigan. They are saying natural reproduction dropped from 60% to 40%. I wonder if the natural reproduction has dropped on Lake Ontario? If so, is this why we see way lower numbers of salmon?

Per the Biologists this will be one if not the best ever year for natural reproduction in the salmon river. Don't know about previous years.

When the pension funds and Social Security go into the tank, Florida will not be so desirable.

That's not going to happen in the near future! You young folks may be concerned about it,

http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2013/02/01/infected_salmon_declared_fit_for_human_consumption_by_canadian_food_inspection_agency.html

Actually later article! Funny how disease is not harmful to humans.

And as Rich said. The steam will still be seen for many years!

The cooling tower is not associated with Fitz, that is part of the cooling system for Nine Mile 2. There are 3 plants on the point, Fitz is the red building. There is still a slight possibility we can be saved, but very slight. Our gov needs to stop being such am idiot and remember upstate does exist!!! The whole area is going to feel the effects if this plant closes.

Capt Rich.

Yep no tax breaks or help for non "Andrew" sponsers while he gives 10 year no tax deals to others at our expense. We all better wise up and really take a hard line with certain New York officials!

My plan is to become Florida resident in 18 months and just visit New York for the summers! Sad but taxes and corrupt officials sucks here!

 Back to the actual subject of this post!

http://www.syracuse.com/outdoors/index.ssf/2015/11/dec_hatchery_fall_salmon_egg_collection_on_target_video_on_target_video.html?ath=e259648e0f2b39ad6ef9d04685caebfe#cmpid=nsltr_strycardleftheadline_single

They should add pictures of motors and compartment. That's what I would want to see if considering a salt water boat !!!!

Thanks for posting Brian!

WTF has this thread turned into.  .  Fishing forum boys.

Agreed! Gill-T

Wow ! Set that up if you have time ! Rich S.

Tired of all this! Please let this post Die?

All can point fingers and banter back and forth forever! Point is this meeting was a good step forward. Hopefully there are improvements considered in the future.

We all should attend the state of the lake meetings that will be held early in 2016 at 3 locations along the south shore. Maybe more information (not speculation ) can be presented then!

That was brought up too Rick before they gave the response you quoted!

Sorry...mistake... While there are STILL charter boats available ...they would be happy to help.. I'm sure there are liability issues and fish disperse challenges...I'm sure can get worked out..the world we live in today makes everything difficult. This fishery is a valuable resource for all on this site...just saying there is help available .

Actually that was brought up at the meeting and DEC response was way too many fish to stock off boats. Not sure what they could do with pens if empty of salmon already?

BROWN TROUT

Brown trout are an important part of the lake fishery and also contribute to the fall tributary fishery. Browns are a featured species early in the spring as they congregate in the relatively warm, near-shore waters off of river mouths providing opportunity for shore and boat fishing. As the lake warms, browns move away from shore and continue to provide fishing for anglers willing to fish near the bottom where it intersects the thermocline. This fishery is often passed over by anglers seeking salmon further off-shore.

As is the case with lake trout, salmon and steelhead, brown trout are capable of getting very large in Lake Ontario. The current state record (33 lbs. 2 oz.) was caught in Mexico Bay in 1997. Fish in the weighing high-teens and 20+ lbs. category are not uncommon.

The brown trout stocked in Lake Ontario are domestic strain fish originating from our Rome Hatchery. The eggs are taken from captive broodstock and the fish are raised at various hatcheries throughout the state including the Salmon River Hatchery. The fish are stocked as yearlings in Lake Ontario around the end of May.

Concerns over predation by double-crested cormorants on recently stocked brown trout led to stocking the fish off-shore with a landing-craft vessel (barge) in the eastern half of the lake starting in 1996. Paired stockings have been done annually at Oswego and Selkirk with half of the fish stocked from shore and the other half from the barge. The two groups of fish have different fin clips which allows us to evaluate the success of the barge stocking through returns of marked fish from the Lake Ontario Fishing Boat Census and other sources. Preliminary observations suggest at least a 4 to 1 advantage for barge stocked fish. We think that the main advantage for the barge stocking may be avoiding predation by other fish. By waiting until late May to stock the fish, cormorants are not very abundant at these sites. Most of the cormorants are involved in nesting activity the eastern basin.

From fish Salmon River.com site.Written by Dan Bishop.

This says we may have lost a lot this year!

http://www.fishsalmonriver.com/Lake-Ontario-Trout-And-Salmon

Why is that Greg? Why can't they make adjustments for the betterment of the lake and those who use it plus what it would mean to the economy of the area and the state overall. Did they say why or just say that's not the case? Some of the answers from them make no sense!

They said their stocking schedule is so set that they can't make changes! I agree it's a waste of resources to let the birds eat the browns.

Problem is the barge they use is based in Cape Vincent and has to travel to stocking sites! You would think they would be able to adjust schedule but they said not the case at the meeting!

Greg,

Was that brown trout stocking at Scriba this year? Are they planning on restocking due to the decimation by the birds? You would think that they would know better and put the stocking off until better weather conditions? Isn't there a back up plan for these situations? Geez!

Yes 2015 Mike. Hopefully they will have good weather in 2016 to allow use of the barge for the brown stocking.

Actually I counted 43 people but that includes the hatchery and associated people! So yes not a large turnout! 

A few statements and discussions with region 7 people:

3.5 million Chinook eggs taken so far. They plan to take more a little later. They modified the check they do on the male sperm by checking all that they will use this year to make sure it's good.

They are presently taking Coho eggs and mentioned that the male sperm has issues and are trying to find out why they are shooting blanks ! Their term not mine.

They realize that there were issues with Chinook numbers and size this year. Didn't mention anything about last 2 winters as a cause for reduced catch numbers.

Made statements regarding the Cormorant control only on Oneida lake that they do. Birds are getting smarter and avoiding their boat. Said they weren't a part of any  other area control. 

Apparently they stocked brown trout without the barge do to weather conditions at scriba Launch and they were decimated by the birds. 

Other items discussed briefly were Lamprey control and possible vitamin issues.

Jump in if I missed something guys !