machzrcr

 nice!  figured  you must of went  with him today   since  i didn't  hear  from you! sounds like  a nice evening,  our  day  was  very  similar!   

  was running some meat today  took a  couple fish on it!    anytime from  now  on  it can be  good!   

ill be out there too!   give me a shout  ill send  you my number.  

 hey  ill take it.     i can send paypal.  and if you want to give it  to matt  and  i can get it from him! 

 i cannot  find one specific part  i need for one of my reels.   and  tuna toms  doesn't show  it on their site.  so i was  wondering if  anyone had a parts reel  i could  get!  

Nice!! Putting some silvers in the boat!

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lee no problem!   sucks to have stuff stolen so it was the least i could do!   how  u making out with that?      

 thanks joe! 

  went out  friday  to  scout  around and  see what the waters  were looking like.  set  up first looking  for browns in about 10-20 fow  pulling   B fullers  off the riggers and  boards and a couple sticks.    We  got  into a couple  but  the water the still a  bit muddy and filled with debris   but the   b fuller goby  was still  poping  a few as  it has been one of my best producers this year  in the fingerling size and  the smaller  lighter razer ones!    after  the debris  kept  getting caught  up on lures  decided it should be set  up good  for saturday and pulled out,

 we then went  deeper  looking for kings and  lakers.    we  found  some nice  marks  and bait  in the 90-130 range  and  had a mix of spinnys with ito flys   and protroll running  ito flys and 3 mag b fullers  2 of divers and one a rigger.    we  didn't have long  so  i made it out to 200 and  it has been the barren land it has been.   made it back into  130 or so and  the rigger fired with the evil twin b fuller and it  was on screamin for about 2 min and off!    then a diver fired with a  white pro troll and ito mirage  fly and again  screaming and  gone!     and we saw  a descent  bottom  picture from 120 - 140 so I knew  we  could  try for some  lakers  saturday too.

So  Saturday we  went  out  set  up in brown water 10-20fow  and  it looked  perfect  good color  good  temp  no debris so i  had  a feeling it was going to be good.    set  the  same  spread  out  with a couple  bright  orange sticks  and b fullers  in  goby and yellow  nbk.  

     i had  one  rigger  out and  putting the next  one  down  and  asked didn't  u set  that rigger  and look and had first  brown in 5 min!      hit the  goby b fuller!     and  finally  we got  everything  out  we ended  up hitting the  browns pretty good, biggest  landed  being 12-05  and 2 of the ones we lost  were  biggg!! they hit off the  spoons on the riggers  put the boat  in neutral a couple times  and they were  feisty   kept  jumping  and  we lost  two that were  at least as big as the 12  if  not  bigger!   but  we only fished  them for  3  hrs and one girl was getting sea sick and wanted to go  in     ; (.  i knew we could  pull  a  money fish  out there but she wanted to go in.   

so we went in and  dropped her off and  the guys  went back out  they wanted to try for lakers  tried to get them  to fish browns  more  but they wanted to go out depper.    so we did  i had  4 flasher flys 2  spoons on  on a diver one on rigger with   evil twin b fullers and  ssw.    got  one  ho on the ssw   and ended up with 10ish lakers  in 3 more hrs   biggest we got  were on the 600 copper with the white pro troll  and mirage  fly biggest  was  16-05.   

the  guys wanted to see  their  names  on the board  so they weighed  in their laker and  brown!  They were happy fun days  to be on the water!  

 brown  bite this morning had a few  go 20 fow, was definitely  expecting better, there was  a lot  of floating   debris  in the water that kept  getting stuck on the lures so we moved  out  deeper  marked  fish from 80-130,   got some  lakers  to go from the bottom did  catch  one laker  while brown fishing, the others  were  on the bottom.  2 kings  one on a spoon bloody nose.  one  on a  white  e chip  and ito  mirage fly.   deep!  100 rigger and 250 diver!  good luck  tomorrow  we  will back at em!

Set n ready will be out tomorrow and sat maybe sunday too will let you know how we do. And ya channel 9 or 8 is going to have more traffic to talk to.

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 pm sent  if  anything is still available.. 

We had a boat broke into at p ville this weekend too! they only took rigger rods and spoons left all electronics alone! Wonder if they are related

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 nice!  I saw  you heading  out  was  down at the boat  pullin a rigger that  quit on me!   glad to see you got a  nice king! 

 yes this was yesterday.   and np

  I have been out of  i bay   for  the last   few  trips  but  finnaly  was  able to get out in p-ville.   

reports  haven't  been showing much  for  bait  and  marks.   but  we had  a 6 hour afternoon trip.  

Left port  and set  up in  80fow   getting things  ready  and working  a  north troll to see what  we had  out there.  marked  a few  fish 80-100 down and  a few lakers  around between 100-140.  So  decided to see if  any kings  wanted to bite for the  first couple hrs   had   spinnys out with ito flies and   some b-fuller spoons   kos and kos with orange dot and  a ssw out  between riggers and copper.   and had a  few surface lines  out for steelies. 

well screen  wasn't  showing  much promising out to 180 and some storms  were rolling in over deeper water.  So  i decided to pull back to the fish i was seeing and sent  divers  out 300  and riggers  down deep  with a large paddle and ito mirage fly  and one  green hammerhead bell.     

kos  took a  shot  got  of  pretty quick.     bells took a couple lakers.   paddle  with fly  took a few more lakers and hit again and  had a screamer!  finally!  got  him in 20lber.  and     kos took another shot  shaker king.   surface lures  lit  up for about an hr  or so between fish with 4 steelies .    after 6 hrs  we pulled  lines and came  in.

definitely  not a ton of kings  around yet but there are a few fish around  going  to have to work for them though!  

marked  a lot of bait balls so they should  be  coming our  way  soon enough!  

capt  Joe 

 congrats on a  good day on the water! with some nice  fish too!   

nice  conesus muskie at least!  

since   i couldnt  figure  out if  it had  surface speed that  is what  i was doing was  just running the proble down 2 feet  but it  is nice to have the option  of  not  having  to put the probe  down.    

But other than that it has been a pretty  nice  unit.   the  depth  it definitely  interesting to see at times.  

I have one of these as well. I contacted Fish Hawk with this same question. Here is their response...

 

"The X4D does not display surface speed. We use the same transducer for the regular X4, we leave the wheel in place because we want everything that is mounted to the boat permanently to be forward and backward compatible, so service and upgrades down the road can be done without drilling new holes in the boat"

 

 

One would assume it has all the features of the X4 plus the addition of depth at the probe.....their advertising needs to state that it does not have surface speed.  

 

 

 Dang them!!    id rather go back to the x4  now lol     And  for those  who say  surface  speed isn't  a factor,   brown fishing  is a really critical time  for knowing your  surface speed.  and   gps  is  nice to get  you in the ballpark,  but  something with the currents  you could  be screaming your lures going one direction and  not  even realize it  if you only paid attention  to gps  speed and  not  your  actual speed over the water.   as well as  if you are trying to work  some  surface  steelies and they are  wanting  a specific speed.  

 

So I guess for now  I will put my  proble on a rigger down one foot so I can get  surface  speed!

 

now why wouldn't they make  it  be able to switch back and forth from rigger depth to showing surface speed like the old unit's.  that  puzzles me  especially when  the  transducer is reading the information. 

 i read  all the directions and  read about the x4-d on the  fish hawk site and others. And  it says  it will show surface speed.  But  i can not  get  myn  to change  over from reading depth to showing speed so does  it and  i am just  not  getting  it  or what?   If anyone knows  how  to get  it  to show   let  me know!!  

thanks 

nice!

 hey!  i launched  my  28 trophy outa there a month ago now and  i draw  around 18 inches  and the  outdrive  but it was plenty deep enough then!   just the usual hump about  half way through the channel heading out but should be good.  and where    are  you docking at p-ville?
 

zimm,   

   yea  i am talking about  setting up for  each day ( setting  down riggers, divers,  copper, boards, etc)  and learning the water and  where to start and what to look  to help find the fish and  once you do you find them  figuring out  what  you need to do to make them  bite!

 but you have  my  info  if  you wanna come out  just  give me a shout.  

  i sent you a pm as well  but i am out of pultneyville and  would be willing to bring you and a couple buddies out and show/ teach you how to rig  everything up and  catch fish while doing so!  

 p-ville  is almost a  straight shot  north to the lake from  canandaigua.

hey  i sent you a pm  explaing  a little more into detail.  But for others  out there as well  it  is  the rules  of the road  to try and pass other  head  on vessels  port  to port. ( left  side  of your  boat to their  left side of their boat).