thanks 4 being such a good dude. i think most of the people who use the sight think trout **** gold and no ones guna share there precious secrets. well u can know nehting i know just ask, fishing has always been about having good times with friends this forum is strange seems like alot of judgement gets passed and people dont really seem to want to help each other just critiscize or offer no help at all. may be its just me but thanks again see you soon.