codybuehler

Full disclosure - you can see a bit of pollen on the hull showing the water line very close to the drain hole of the well / pan - this is largely due to fishing with a large gas tank in the stern, combined with:  switching Group 27 batteries for the trolling motor with Group 31s which are bigger,  I've added the kicker motor on the port side, as well as adding a group 27 deep cycle / hybrid battery as well for the electrical system (now running a house / crank battery dual circuit vs. just the 1 battery that came stock) - so significant weight added to the stern, so definitely contributes to the fact that the stern sits lower in the water, but is NOT an excuse for Targa making leaky maintenance hatches that almost resulted in teh sinking of my boat while sitting at the dock while on vacation.   Would welcome any thoughts on how we / I approach Tracker on this.  Again - thanks in advance for any insights / ideas folks.

That is a pile of added in weight. But the redundancy the awesome.

Why did you go with the 31’s over the stock 27’s? Do you get to places you can’t recharge your batteries? I could go almost 2 fishing days (15-16 hours) on the 27’s it came with after 2 seasons of fishing before they would get low enough to be an issue. Water that close to the drains it would have been in there a lot with just a small riffle on the water.

Ugg, with the welded could be a crack somewhere? Wouldn’t think splash well would get much from sitting stagnant at dock. Leaks you can’t locate suck no doubt.


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No doubt, could be a crack somewhere. If you can find it I would fully trust tracker to fix it. You won’t see the boat for a few months, but it would come back fixed. I had the leaf springs in my trailer fail. All 4 stretched an inch or 2 because the heat treat wasn’t right. This let both axles hit the keel and make a good mark on it. Dealer took it and inspected. Tracker requested it back so off it went to Missouri. 3 months later I had it back with no dents, new hull paint and 4 new leaf springs. $0 besides the gas to take it back and forth from the dealer.

Sadly it doesn’t take much chop to get water in that splash well through the drains. Full tank of gas, 2 guys and fishing gear along with 1-2’ waves and it has water in and out all day long. I try to run the bilge pump when I think about it when I’m on the water and it always pumps for 30 seconds to a minute over around 3 hours. 5 minutes of runtime overnight is excessive. That would be about 70 gallons of water with an 800GPH bilge pump. That’s a lot of rain and a lot of seepage through those access holes.


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Loose rivet may be higher than what you were able to fill in the driveway but lower than your water line. I had a rivet that was in line with a bunk that didn’t leak on the trailer due to weight. Also could be a drain line. Cork all drains and live wells from outside and put in water. Might tell something different.


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No rivets in these boats. All welded.

I get water in mine also. I can almost for sure say it comes form the access handholes in the motor well. No water in my bilge unless I get some waves in there. Plug up the self bailing holes in the back and fill that up a bit. Wouldn’t go over the gas fill or the boot that the wires some through, but I bet it’s coming in there.

picked this one up about 3 miles out in front of Oswego. Sea ox


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That’s a fancy one! Stuff north wind, they probably are Canadian beach balls!

hey Cody nice to see we weren't the only ones struggling in the eastern basin fished yesterday from daylight until 1 had one screamer lost about 30 feet from the boat ugh then 1 tripped rigger with no fish couldn't get out of the low 40s for a temp seemed like the entire water column was the same temp down to 90  fow as high up as 40  good luck

It was tough. We stayed out until 2:30. Worked into 90FOW right of of Mexico and found some bait, marks and temp. We could watch the streaks on the sonar looking at our stuff but no takers. Tomorrow is another day. We stopped and picked up some herring for the meat rigs. Headed west right away and going from there.

Never mind the ball, lets see something with gills!

I wish. We’ve covered close to 30 miles looking for anything. Besides a few random fish and bait balls, we aren’t finding much.

Anyone lose a beach ball?




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Dipsey on 3 setting out 131 took a rip. Small fish, popped off just behind boat. 105fow black/blue ladder back mag spoon

Found a distinct surface temp break. Lots of little green surface algae and crap in the water, surface temp only 2 degrees warmerX down temp still the same.

63ft down, still 41.8deg, 2.0mph at the ball
59ft, 42.4deg
54ft, 42.4
50ft, 43.0
45ft, 44.1
40ft, 48.3, but bouncing around between 46.0 and 48.3 degrees

Hope this helps someone!

Straight out north currently. 120FOW headed East. SOG 2.7, speed at the ball is 2.2. Worked between 150 and 120 FOW. No fish yet, some bait closer to 150FOW but small schools. Temp at 69ft down is 41.8deg. Looks like everyone is east of us.

Thanks, I have never launched out of Treman. How was the fishing at least

Went 2 for 2 on Lakers and pulled it all up by 11. Wind picked up and waves were 2’ pretty consistent. One came on a flatline near shore, other on a flasher 100 down over 225’. Lots of bait spread around with fish just as spread out. The water temp was 2 degrees warmer than last week in the same area. It’s getting there.


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Treman water right out from the docks is 2.9ft, canal along the east side goes to 8ft along the concrete, then go right between the concrete and red lighthouse it’s just shy of 4ft. Those all are below the bottom of my boat. I don’t have an offset programmed in. Don’t go west of the red lighthouse and concrete


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Thanks! Also how big is the boat you are launching?
 

It’s a Tracker Targa 18.

any update on the water level at the launches?

I’m launching out of Treman in the morning. Went last week and it was low, but I only was nervous a few times. I’ll post and share tomorrow what it’s like.

https://www.dec.ny.gov/lands/101040.html

Cornell lake source cooling.

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There you go! I drew a line to the sewer plant over at that corner and assumed. I guess when you assume...

It does disappear deeper into the lake than my sidescan and Downimaging can show. It’s an impressive piece of hardware. The ultimate geothermal system!

http://www.cayugalake.cornell.edu/weather.php

Try this link. It’s from the permanent weather station in the water on the south end. Water temps, air temps, wind and direction. Turbidity too, but the inlet will mess with that a bit compared to the lake in general. Hope this helps!

I love the side imaging for early season (like now) on Cayuga. It shows bait and fish along the sides because I run nothing straight below this time of year. I have a Humminbird Helix 12 SI G2N.

Found this gem the other day when I was out. Saw something on my general sonar, but the detail on the side imaging is incredible. I assume it’s a sewer pipe, but I could be wrong.

GPS shows 2.2 with a down speed of 2.3 headed south. Best line for us has been dodging around the boats in close anchored or drifting. There were piles of fish on the bottom in there yesterday. 

Was out last night (9/11), found temps down 80. Today it’s down 50. Shows 49.8 at 51 feet. 3 for 7 now. 1 salmon around 19” and I figure the rest were Lakers. They are liking small silver and black scorpions on the 250’ copper, 10 color leadcore and downrigger parked at 51’. Speed is on the higher end: 2.4-2.5 at the Ball. GPS shows 2.1SOG headed north. Biggest laker today is around 7lbs.

 

Sold!


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What a difference in boats, I tried every spoon known to man today and never got a release, we did end up 14 of 16 with all but 2 coming on flasher flys. Had 2 on meat and one good rip

I tried a few different colors and depths on a flasher and couldn’t make them take those.

There was about an hour when it didn’t matter what color or how deep or shallow we were running the stuff. Everything took hits. Makes for a fun little while, but couldn’t find that school again.


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I was wondering what all of you were up to just inside of us. We were playing around in the 185-220’. Saw the same current issues. All of our bites were headed west, in a wide range of depths. 45-80’ down on the riggers, 10 color lead cores and 212’ on the dipseys. Had to fight the speed headed back East.

 

Ended up 6 for 12. I assume all kings. Couldn’t land a good hook set on the bigger fish on the dipsey. Took some drag and slipped the hook.

 

 

This silver streak did most of the work for us today. Can’t find a replacement anywhere. I think it’s Peppermint Patty? The rest were green and blacks.

 

Sale pending

And the saga continues! I figured this was worth adding to this thread.

I was using some Brocraft versatrack rod holders with Cannon plastic rod holders. It was nice being able to move them, but wow did they flex bad when a real fish took the dipsey. Some measuring and thinking later, I decided to add tracks to the gunwales between the consoles and rod boxes.

36” tracks fit perfect. 2” ahead of the rod box edges and 3” from the inside edge.

The port side was a lot more difficult to put in than the starboard side. I had to take a bunch of screws out of the side and pull it open. Also I had to take the bottom two rod tubes out. That’s the only way I could reach up under and tighten the bolts down. The backing is 1” thick plastic I had laying around.

The starboard side I had to take off the control vinyl covered piece and also the bottom two rod tubes. Same measurements again for placement and same backing plate.

This whole process tightened up everything. Paired up with some Cannon rod holders it’s pretty slick. Even my trees fit on the track and made them more solid.

I had a pair of 6” tracks and pedestals for my downriggers in the garage so figured I would make those work as well. I tried the pedestals and tracks once before but they seemed to flex the gunwale too much for comfort. I used more of the plastic backing and made two sections 8”x21”. Took the back sides off and pulled out the foam. I had to take off the cleats this time also to be able to fit the backing plates under there. Through bolted the tracks in and ran the clear bolts back through the new backing. Stuffed all the foam back in and screwed the side panels back on. That shored it all up and it’s a lot more comforting knowing they have that much more of the torque spread out under there. I may get 12” tracks this winter and bolt them in to help spread it out a bit more, but for know it’s good enough!



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