cdq

So today I took a couple of my buddies to Linear Park in Penfield to do a little fly fishing, one has gotten more experience the more I take him out, the other not any experience so went down there to catch some stocker browns, and some suckers, possibly hook up with a bonus drop back Steelhead. As we were walking down to the 441 hole I noticed a dead fish that looked big, so for me whenever I see a fish dead I usually go take a look and see what kind it is, maybe just look real quick and make a guess on how it died and move on.

Sure enough it is a Steelhead about 24-30 inches, female that dropped her eggs already, bright silver, just a nice beautiful healthy looking fish that would've obviously made it back to the lake and thrived.

I take a close look at it and the fishes head was bashed right in and the tail just forward of the anal fin cut clean off with a knife, straight perfect cut.

I wanted to take a picture of it but I didnt have anything to take a pic with and both my buddies have track phones still, that wont take pics.

I guess what I am trying to get to is why would people do this, and if you see a fish dead like that what would you do?

If you're going to keep a fish for consumption or mount it thats fine all the power to you, if you're going to release a fish thats even better in my opinion, but why go out of your way to do something like this it makes no sense to me what so ever and frankly it really is irritating.

I've got the popcorn!

Haha yeah I know Scott, I was hesitant in putting this up because it might start an argument but I am stuck on what to talk about, and I need some help.

Hey everyone,

So I am taking a public speaking class at FLCC and our last speech is a persuasive speech. I want to talk about something related to Trout and Salmon in the Great Lakes. I thought snagging would've been a good topic to talk about but I cant find any information online or at least information that would be beneficial and I could submit. Is there any other topics that you guys know of that I can find a lot of information on?

Thanks,

cdq 

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Good job Brian! Jason told me you were getting out on Saturday, wish I went out but Jason had me work at Camp this weekend but caught some Steelhead out of Powder Mill after my shift was over!

Hey Guys,

I've been looking forward to the Trolling Season starting! So I've been getting my fix by looking at my gopro vids, so I made this bloopers edit if you guys wanted to see it

Thanks

https://m.youtube.com/results?q=collinquinter&sm=3

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-QoWBaCAkn0

So I have been wanting to upload to YouTube lately but with only 6 subscribers I just haven't had the desire to post anything. I have a lot of videos that I am editing so if you have a YouTube channel and like watching fishing videos go check me out when I start gaining more subs ill start posting more frequently. The video is just a small edit from this last fall fly fishing the tribs with my good buddy Cam, even though everyone is getting ready for what looks to be a fantastic trolling season this year like my self, just thought people who enjoy trib fishing would like to see this small edit!

All FLT spoons were our MVPs, KOS Radiation, and 2 other I'm not sure what the names are one looks like a Gator pattern that I don't have a pic of and the other one is in the Kings mouth I'm holding

No salmon in this ditch for 5 years is a year class?  Since when as most returning fish are 2 or 3 yr olds.

Again that is just my first observation to what you were saying, I'm still trying to figure it out, maybe I worded it weird I don't know, still trying to make sense of it. Not trying to start an argument.

I'm tellin ya, area 54 is no joke!

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Died laughing at this comment Scott!

I love it when people reference wiki. 

 

I know of a ditch that doesn't get any runs typically because the levels are SSSOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO low.  It is located within a few miles of a major trib that gets a large run.  When the planets align and we get enough rain, some fish run that ditch and they may attempt to spawn but most die before they are ready to do their thing because of water temps and lack of oxygenated water. 

 

Please tell me how those fish returned back to that ditch if there were no fish present for upwards of 5 years?  Maybe I will reference wiki.

Still not trying to start an argument.

You pretty much answered your own question, the water levels are slim to none, salmon can not pick up on the olfactory cues that the stream imprints because there is no water putting the smell of the stream out into the lake. Trout and Salmon like I said before use their olfactory sense to home in on the stream they were raised in. So if they can't find their steam they have to resort to find a different stream to reproduce in because salmon are genetically enhanced to produce offspring and die. So once they find that other stream then their offspring return to that other stream as spawning adults due to that stream imprinting on them as young salmon.

For salmon that weren't present in those 5 years its probably a year class that was just so happened to be spawned in that creek at the time water levels were good and when they came back as spawning adults the water level was up and they found their way home. That really how I can make sense of that question.

Science its a very weird topic!

Yeeeahh!!! That's the spirit!!! Ok , well do you think that fish with a pea sized brain is smart enough to know where on this enormous earth they were born?? I thin not!!!

I normally stray away from arguments but I am only responding to this comment.

Trout and Salmon or any member of the Salmonidae family are genetically enhanced to what their natal stream/spawning area is at the egg, alevin, fry, and parr stage of their life. When they're spawning adults or adults staging to spawn they go through a change called smolting. Which is a physiological change to their bodies, with this their olfactory sense (sense of smell) kicks in to imprint on cues from their natal stream. They pick up on the smell of the stream they were raised in. This is how a Trout or Salmon homes on their natal spawning grounds. Homing- Ability to return to native streams.

Now before you go saying other ridiculous comment to this one, I did not get this off the internet I am an 18 year old college freshman working towards a Fish and Wildlife biology degree at FLCC, so I think I am going to listen to my professor who is well known throughout the DEC, go ahead ask me any question about any North American freshwater fish species and ill tell you the answer even anatomy questions also.

As for salmon spawning naturally in the Genny I couldn't tell ya, id have to say little to none but more towards none because of the huge amounts of silt deposits that come through. Its hard for an egg to sit in a redd and be able to grow and get oxygen when threre is a constant flow of silt covering the egg, salmon make their redds on a hard substrate. Even though there is optimal oxygen levels and water temp I just think with the amount of silt its hard. It'd be a great research topic one that I would definitely want to research and find out a little more on.

My buddy asked me if I can write something asking if anyone is selling one or where he could possibly find one?  He wants to start getting into it so just thought id help him out

Good Luck, Tight lines, Screaming Reels

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Just found this!

We were trollin the bar last week about a half mile east of four mile. We were in 206 FOW when my port rigger, down 55' grabbed something. The swivel mount broke the lock pin with the impact. Boat to nuetral. After cleaning up spread, we were anchored. I was able to work my weight up to 16', then , no more. I let it back out and swung the boom hard left to right. It popped right out. Ive hooked large submerged wood in the past. This was like an anchor line. Any ideas?

Yup,I have him on speed dial

Same!

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The shootout is July 25th.  If you pay in cash, you can meet up with Legacy, Silver Fox or myself before the date and sign up. 

How much is it to enter, and is it per person?

Just trying to figure out where to sign up for the shootout, and when the tourney actually is? Dad and I haven't been able to fish it the years its gone on so far and we have always talked about fishing it! Any information will be great!

Collin

Good Luck, Tight Lines, Screaming Reels

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Landed this guy during the Spring Derby!

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If fleas were not in issue, would 15 pound test be strong enough to land Kings

Yes we use 15lb Berkley Big Game Mono all spring long until the fleas show up. Then we switch to 25lb when they do show. Would recommend spooling a couple of extra reels with heavier line just in case the fleas have shown when you get here. 

Nice rig! Good job thanks for the report, Dad and I will probably be out next weekend hopefully!

Gotta love Lakers when the kings haven't showed or you can't find them, keeps you busy at the back of the boat! The Laker population is strong and healthy!

The east wind tends to run against the current which from my past on the lake almost creates a slack water situation and fish generally won't feed. As for the water temp it also rolls the surface water under and creates upwelling mixing he thermal line up. I have been on the lake catching Browns in 60' one day and 2 days later after a East blow had to chase them out to 200'. Fish bite the least when the wind is from the east and the best when it's from the west.

Winds out of the East fish hit the least, Winds out of the west fish hit the best! Not always true but majority of the time it is!