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10 hours ago, Todd in NY said:

 

You might be right about "wanting" more, but I have everything I "need"

Does the wish list ever go away? Nope.

 

If I buy something for the 2019 fishing season, I promise to post a pic of it here on this thread

LOL, yes the desires are always there!! It’s like a drug, the old saying goes JUST SAY NO!!

35 minutes ago, Fat Trout said:

I fish solo a lot and even when i dont, most fish are netted along side with the boat slowed to idle and the rigger boom swept back. Granted im fishing an 18' aluminum. Head first, quick swipe witha big net....and heres the key....pull the the net back and let the pressure off the rod so the fish drops into the bag. Then grab the hoop and up in the boat. I only net off the stern with someone experienced so they dont drop the net into the prop. This year ill be running a kicker so that will let me net off the stern on the non kicker side.

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That's a brilliant idea for keeping the net bag its self doesn't give you the green wiener!! But the problem I had with this horse I mean 25+ like in the old snagging era. Folks remember when high 20's mid 30's wasn't uncommon I didn't have enough strength to get the net over the fish. There was to much resistance against just the net itself to even get the net up to the net so I told my girls to walk towards me and we'll drop her right in. Notta. So I can see why they net in the direction of the flow of the boat not against it. Cause I wasn't strong enough to move the net towards the fish let alone deep enough to not touch the fish because that's exactly what happened I touched the fish after a good 1/2hr that fish took off towards the bow and turned right down and say good bye!!

10 hours ago, chowder said:

I actually love my I/O Islander it’s just to big to haul around on ice covered roads. I’ve spent years getting my little 1st boat to the place it is now it is joy to be out in Oct to May

Yes I agree with ya on the I love my Islander I love my Sea-Ray I/O I'm not fortunate to own 2 boats!! Just jealous not mad LOL

Are they having any seminars like last year. The guys on the walleye was what I went for. Great job buy all the guys doing the seminars!! I nearly passed out when I heard they were going to be talking about something other than salmon

26 minutes ago, garrymny said:

I asked virtually the same question last year after my fishing buddy lost a few good fish at the net. Poor technique. I suggest reading that thread I started, and all the goos answers. But bottom lines are as follows, based on answered received and more experience now: 1.  head first works better. 2. Biggest net you can buy. 3. It is a team effort. 3.  A fast  confident scoop, no half hearted efforts; get it done, don't be timid!.  We finally agreed that I would net all fish (he has bad knees) 4.  Only attempt to net a fish that is fought out and is tired, and is at the surface.  (not always possible, especially if caught on downrigger-short line) 5. On big fish, clear other lines if possible. You can slow down but do not stop, unless you want a tangled mess of other lines (including riggers). If you cleared all the other lines, then  by all means stop. If not  keep  forward motion going. 6, attach a clip to the net handle  to hold the basket and prevent it from going into the fishes face. One problem we had was my buddy failed to get the net deep enough in water and the net would go over top of the fish, or the hook would catch the net. 

Thanks so much for the answers I was looking for. I'm not new at fishing just with these big hombres. The 16-19# fish were no problem but that horse which busted up a lot of gear and my 13 year old daughters took turns getting it to the boat and I blew the net job. I felt like a heel. They were PO'd at dad and rightfully so.     thanks again guys I got a pretty good grip on things should things transpire next year!!

32 minutes ago, just me said:

i have a 1995 crestliner eagle 23 1/2 ft. i love this boat. i went through 5 boats in seven years finally found one i love and will keep ALL WELDED no rivets. very high sides handles everything....

very pleased have it almost 5 seasons now,great fishing machine.

I can't believe it either same situation. I have more than 1 person can use in a years time in lures, spoons. I have enough poles and reel than I'll use this entire coming season. I've run into deals on spoons of every color brand size and same as lures!! Lots are still in the package but not "per say" brand new. I actually don't have a need to buy anything in the bait end of the stick. I've been a lowrance guy for ever, I got the Bass Pro Master catalog and I'm thinking they came out with a new version of the ti version but yet I got a email from our local Cabelas and no mention of the ti and the only thing that I would like to update is my lowrance Elite series to the Hook9 but the new Ti series if I'm correct in my mind I can almost move to the 10" screen although I have no room to be honest for that big of a screen. So I'll be watching this. I have no desire to just spend the money to have the greastest-newest as I'm happy with what I have. 99% of everything I have is second hand and that's allowed me to be where I am in the items needed to be successful. While I know we got off track I just wanted to let the new folks know there's nothing wrong with second hand stuff that you can see both sides of the items. Every one have a great 2019 season. Looking like it's going to be a early brown season but enough time for O'l Man Winter to raise Havoc, time will tell.

That is true dedication guys!! My hats off to your determination!!! Your post and timing is the proof is in the pudding  in the reasoning that I'm so done with I/O's way to much time lost with having to remove the water after each use !!!

20 hours ago, Sk8man said:

I know there has been a lot of controversy previously here about this question of netting from the head or tail of the fish and despite strong opinions we are left witht the fact that both methods work  if the  person with the net knows what they are doing. I was schooled by old timers back in the 1960's fishing the Finger Lakes and every one of them netted trout from behind and low so that the fish  did not see the net or get spooked but it takes practice and a degree of skill. The problem of the common practice of netting from the head is that a) the fish can and do easily get spooked and take off like a rocket if not really fully tired out from the fight. b) there is an increased risk of knocking the lure or hook out of the mouth with the net; especially with inexperienced netters. An important facet of the netting operation is where in the boat you attempt to net the fish. (All these comments are assuming you have a large long handled net). Netting from the back there is the risk of the fish diving under the prop as they near the boat (especially with large kings and big browns). In netting from toward the back at the side (salmon and rainbows/steelies) often try to keep up with the boat and swim along on the side) and when they don't see the net (presented behind and under them they are only capable of moving forward and if they turn around and run they are in the net. The logical comment here would be yeh but they can take off forward. They may on occasion try it but if they are feeling the pressure of the line and swimming to keep up with the boat they seldom realize that the net is there or what is about to happen. If repeated unsuccessful attempts are made here trying to net them from the head or tail it often spooks them if you're not real quick and adept at it so you're stuck with whatever works. Basically, it is necessary to plan and communicate before the fish arrives at the boat so that the person with the rod is on the same page and communicating with the netter about exactly what is intended and what is happening. Over the years I've found that reducing boat speed to let the fish pull the boat somewhat while using the drag of the reel to control it  tends to tire out the fish the best and gradually bringing to the rear side posiition without exposing the net to the fish and then scooping them from underneath and behind is the most workable on my boat and I haven't lost a fish in many many years doing it this way. I know this may fly in the face of what many if not most guys including the "experts" are doing but with either way the developed skill (and quickness)of the netter is the most important variable.

Thanks Les!!! aka PAP.

All good ideas, the only way I thought would be safe as the pig only had the circle hook in the fleshy part off to the side. So I was afraid that the triple hooks from the fly would get caught in the net and not allow the fish get all the way in the net. The resistance from the water going through the net kept me from doing a good net job and we lost it anyway but hey the season will be here soon!! 

I don't mean over the side of the boat I mean to actually net the fish. I have a swimplatform which my kicker is mounted to so as I see on TV I can't net head first off the stern so I net off the sides my gripe is to net the fish from tail to head as we only had 1 hook in the fleshy part of the mouth. Is it impossible to net a salmon from tail first?? like I do most my walleyes.

Got a question for you seasoned salmon guys. Last year us eastern guys were blessed to have kings. I'm into walleye fisherman so I never had to cross this bridge. So OK I'm trolling 2.5mph to get 2.3 mph at the ball. Ok we hook up and it feels like a horse we get it up on the surface and along the boat. I'm not a power lifter or a noodle arm but I couldn't get the net from behind the and make the scoop. So I went and bought a thinner net figuring there's to much resistance using my walleye net. The other net had a bigger bucket yet a lot more net in the water. It was easier but I guess what would have been the smartest thing to do looking back on it would have been to back the speed off. What's your guys Take on it. What do you guys do. As a eye angler and 2.2 mph I never had to cross this bridge.

I have the PYTHON steering and for me this is the cats meow!! Its controlled with a remote on a lanyard it has a couple built in tricks like long sweeping turns and I think it has a speed up then slow down. But I'm coupling the PYTHON steering with a i troll with all kinds of infinite throttle controls and all different kinds of programs to add different trolling programs speed up stop or almost stop yet keeps from having a knotted up mess. I'd definitely looks into this. You can get whatever strikes your fancy. The python system $ 600. And change and the I troll is $265-300 plus so $900+ or $1900.00 for others. Just FYI. Or the old tie rods to both motors plus needing a captain at all times. The EZ STEER I used for years before going with the PYTHON.

Still willing to buy releases???

My Knight has a vortex telescope on it I actually took a 2-7 Leopold off. Vortex has better glass than the VXII. Not saying Leopolds newer more higher$$$ ones aren't better now a days. I just bought a Vortex 4-16×30mm tube and illuminated recticals off a fellow on here that shoots mega distances as he's going more power yet. He knows his crap and from what I read and his Intel plus what my knight muzzleloader has a Vortex. I'm not in the know of better glass. Other than Saworski-sp.? I'll own 3 once this one I'm getting for my 22/250 yote rifle. 

Really nice boat video is awesome!! Left you a pm!! Used to go by PAP!!

We had 2 of them when I was a kid 1 was a Terra Tiger and the other I think was a T Rex. They were bad azz machines. They were really nasty when we replaced the the old school Briggs with 440 rotax motors and had them fitted with sled drive pulleys and comet clutches. 40mph!!! All the power one could use. I used to use Terra Tiger to check my trap line when it was bad weather. Short cut was across our pond no problem. 

Most meats grind easier when chilled/stiff especially if under powered or under geared/speed unit is being used.

Metal or plastic???

5 minutes ago, chinook35 said:

I too am a Viet Nam vet. Nam went on for many years. Longer than most people realize. The term “PTSD “ originated in the years we were involved in the Nam . Previously it was shell shock or battle fatigue The point I am trying to make is that I can’t remember mass shootings in the 60 ‘ s or 70’s. Something has changed in our society It has nothing to do with gun ownership. When I was in school many cars and trucks had shotguns and rifles on board to go hunting after school I don’t pretend to have the answer. But blaming vets and guns is not the answer. Of that I’m sure

 

 

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Absolutely Chinook!! As a young guy we took our guns on the school bus, never ammo and guns we knew better it never happened. Our gym class was announced over the intercom, all those participating in the hunting class report to the gym. The school was close to farm fields that the game commission stocked pheasants, us guys and some girls went hunting the rest of the day. Guns went home via bus or buddy or parents. The term I used is the key to all of this "We knew better" our era was the last to have parents we respected!! Did I get a spanking?? You bet your bottom dollar. How many of us got taken home via the State police for driving gassed as we called it. Well my brother and I, our biggest fear that night was going to be dad in the door way. YES the cop gave us the full deal in the driveway lights sirens action. OOH Boy we are in deep shyt. We are the last!!

Lowrance makes a unit called iFinder h2o that's all I ever used till the price of the finder/GPS units came down and even before they were available in 1 unit.

LakeO is one of the best trout/salmon fisheries, Lake Erie is one of the best walleye fisheries in the country, why isn't LakeO trying to get something near the walleye populations to make LakeO the most sought after lake in the country. The structure of LakeO is so much like the Canadian lakes structure wise of course with out the depths. With the walleyes picking up on the gobies and able to get into the shallows to harvest the gobies. Are the populations still there like in the 80's or not. Why isn't there more light shed on this subject??

Somebody saw on the news in Washington state that was crazy to see. Kings swimming across the road. Driver in pickup slows to allow a school to cross.👍👍

Awesome buck Momay4000!!! Nice job on your recovery. That guy will put a nice pile of meat in the freezer. PAP.