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Hah didn't realize we'd get into such a heated battle. It's fun to try to figure these things out though. So, what did the guy in the link in the OP mean when he said

Use a Big Jon Jettison Release above the diver when using mono and you'll be able to add a line above the diver so you can offer two lures instead of one. This is a deadly tournament tactic you'll only hear here.

heh. this sketch aside, how do you actually pull 2 lures at different depths behind a dipsy?

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Can someone explain how to achieve this? This site says to use a Big Jon Jettison release but doesn't go into any more detail than this. I'd like to try to have one spoon trailing behind the dipsy and another one 10-20ft above it.

Thanks!

Just my 2 cents. I would not recommend "geneus" consider Lake Ontario. I do agree a 16' boat can handle a lot of water with an experianced boater. But simply asking the question suggests He would be better off getting some more tiller time on the smaller lakes before venturing out on bigger water.

Amen! White caps on Canadice sent us running for the shore pretty fast this morning! Not fun.

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Just as the title question suggests, I wonder if anyone's had any luck tipping your hooks with chunks of fish that you had caught before?

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Want to try washing some spoons and perhaps even try deep jigging for the first time, on a weekday night, and Canandaigua (town) is a 20 minute drive which is a lot nicer when you're headed into the night.

Any advice on where to go off the public boat launch? Unfortunately can't go very far very fast on a 9.9hp and would probably like to stay closer to the shore but still interested in hitting some depth in search of trout of any kind.

Thanks a lot!

Are these coupons still available?

you can get a 10 dollar coupon by filling out a survey following a link on any Dick's store receipt. so, you can buy something, fill out the survey, and print out a coupon immediately.

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I just figured out you don't *actually* have to buy anything to get a $10 off $50 coupon.

Use:

Store number 00028

Register number 004 (made up)

Transaction Number 07569 (made up)

Transaction Date 06/10/12 (made up, but I believe must be within the last 7 days)

Total purchase amount 17.89 (made up).

Go ahead and fill out the survey about your "visit."

Would you guys recommend against throwing a 16' aluminum deep-V like this one in one of the bigger lakes, like Seneca or Keuka? It does fine on Hemlock/Canadice but I'm a little nervous about how bad it would get if a little windy or with wake from bigger boats/pwc's, etc.

Thanks for your thoughts!

Heading out early in the morning tomorrow, hopefully I have some good pics to post up

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Any luck?

Went with gf in the middle of the afternoon just to be out in the sun on this gorgeous day and didn't expect much going from 2 to 5 and just as expected, got nuttin.

But SO many people, never seen a line up of 5 cars at the launch waiting to throw their kayaks and boats in...

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Skunked!!

Tried just about everything could think of, different depths and lures. Even got up at 4am for the first time in a long time to get there early! Oh well... I *had* been warned! Beautiful day on the lake though, even if a little windy.

But - here's a strange thing that happened, now a second time at Hemlock. I get what seems like a snag - the reel just starts unspooling continuously - not a jerky kind of motion a fish bite would produce. As I kill the engine and try to reel in, it feels like this thing is pulling away fast, but from the same spot. At any point I can stop and it feels like there's no pull for a second, but then there's a hard pull again. Battled this monster for a good 10 minutes before the line broke taking a spoon with it. This was on an 'extra' rod with a jet diver - I'd be mad if I lost a dipsy. Any thoughts? Only thing I can think of is a heavy branch or something and a strong underwater current.

Both lakes are small, doesn't take long to find em

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Depends on what you mean by "long." It takes a good half an hour to travel Hemlock's 7 mile length with 2 people on a 9.9HP at full throttle.

Did quite well last Saturday morning. Lakers and Bows off the riggers and the wire with flasher/fly. I'll be down there Friday night for eye's and switch to trout at sunrise.

Good Luck!

More details? Location? Depth?

Thanks!

Monster trout! (or whatever happens to hit). Preferably big!

Anyone been to Hemlock lately? Trying to decide between Hemlock or Canadice (or elsewhere?) for this weekend...

Are these coupons still available?

you can get a 10 dollar coupon by filling out a survey following a link on any Dick's store receipt. so, you can buy something, fill out the survey, and print out a coupon immediately.

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Man oh man, the hour long ride to the lake was like DAY and NIGHT difference compared to the previous two times, with the transom tie downs holding the boat down and the motor mount holding up the motor. Running over bumps in the road sounded like "thump, thump" for the car, then the trailer, instead of "thump, thump, rattle, rattle," watching the entire boat and motor bouncing up and down. Hah.

Don't forget to take them off when you launch the boat or it will take a long time to get the boat in the water.

LOL. Yeah. It took me a while to get the dang transom saver motor mount together too. At least that was straightforward to do, just had to figure out the best way to bungee the motor to the mount and the mount to the trailer.

This boat thing seems to have so many little things to remember!...

Transom tie downs, Motor mount, Bilge plug (yes, already put the boat in the water without it once) ... hah. SO worth it though

Ugh. Turns out the way they come packaged is NOT the way they are to be used.

After following this picture in the package, everything worked just dandy.

Yeah I can't wait to get out of work and have that face palm moment. And, really the velcro is supposed to keep the buckle closed?? isn't that kind of lame our does it actually work? I mean, I trust Attwood, so I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt...

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The pull of the free strap keeps the buckle in the open position. When I push the buckle down, it doesn't lock, in fact the free strap that is taut is not allowing the buckle to remain closed, if that makes any sense. :-\

I have no problem tying 5 different fishing knots off the top of my head... But I can't figure out these damn transom tie downs. No matter which way I pull I can't seem to lock them down!! I know a picture is worth 1000 words but can someone use words to tell me what in the world I could possibly be doing wrong? I spent 20 minutes trying every which way, and nothing....

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B001O0DIN6/ref ... B001O0DIN6

Minn Kota is currently sporting an up-to $50 rebate on their Endura motors, plus Dick's has them on sale.

About to jump on the 55 - will come out to $229.99 sale price + tax - $50 rebate ~ $200 - not bad! Could try to slip them a $10 off coupon too, but trolling motors are one of the excluded items, so it might not work. Still, not bad IMO.

http://www.dickssportinggoods.com/produ ... d=10790576

edit: they took the $10 off coupon, total after rebate will be $186

I use seguar flourocarbon leader material from the dipsy to lure and a good snap swivel on lure...virtually invisible...15 lb is plenty for Hemlock, but it does need to be tough to handle the shock of hit on a dipsey....you keep this up and your gonna need a new credit card...this is a sickness you know right?

PS..use good knots recommended for the braid because the material is very slippery and knots can slip. The package usually illustrates the recommended ones to use . What brand of braid did you get?

Mark

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I used Spiderwire Stealth and tied a palomar knot for the dipsy... then a lock snap swivel, and 6ft of 15lb mono tied to the spoon. I didn't have any rings and the Stinger spoons don't come with them, so I was a bit worried that the metal would nick the mono, but had no choice. I'll get some rings and retie for the next time.

I spooled 125yds and it looked like there was hardly any line on the reel. based on my calculations the reel could take 1000 yards of 30lb braid. Eek.

For the second setup I just bought a spool of Sea Hunter brand 30lb cause it was only $20 for 325 yards

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004TN ... 00_s01_i00

A question on tying your rigs... Do you retie them every time you go out on the water, or how often do you retie them?

I know you want to keep things on the least expensive route, but would seriously recommend 30 lb braid on your reels for divers. If you are just fishing Hemlock or most any lake besides lake O. You will be able to achieve much greater depth and be able to trip the dipsy much easier for retrieval. Mono is a pain for dipsy. Also, with the heartlands you got, don't use snubbers the rods are very flexible and take the hit no problem. You get better hookup.

You will know the hit when it comes. Pole thrashes and if drag is set right...it sings FISH ON with the clicker on..

Mark

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I followed your advice and put 30lb braid on, and used 15lb mono leaders... First time ever using braided line - it's SO easy to tie knots with. Incredible. Would you ever use braided leaders, or does mono make more sense because of the elasticity?

Fished Canadice on Sunday from around 7:30am to 12pm. Had rigged up my brand spanking new Daiwa Heartland 8'6" with the Magda Pro DX30, dipsy and a blue/silver Stinger Magnum spoon. Took 10-15 minutes to figure out how the dipsy works for the first time ever. Man oh man, that thing pulls hard!! Stayed close to shore, above about 45 fow. Had absolutely no idea whether anything was gonna work out, but set the dipsy to dive to about 20 feet. 5 minutes into trolling, the rod starts playing! Woot! I couldn't believe it but I just caught something, first time in years! Apparently it really IS possible, despite my worst fears. It was a beautiful laker about 16-17" long. We quickly let him go after a photo op.

Trolled to the southernmost point of the lake while rigging up another rod flatlining a "dives-to-20" plug. Turned around at the end and went back up north. Set up the 3rd rod with a 3-way swivel, a small spoon and a 3oz weight and let it out about 80 feet, trying to reach close to the bottom where we were (still quite a bit from an exact science, but we figured why not try). Once we made it back up, I am thinking we pause at the northern end and I change out the spoon for something else. As soon as I say that out loud, the dipsy rod starts thrashing again, in the same exact spot as the first time. I let my dad reel it in this time - this was a beauty we had decided to keep! We measured it at home - it was a 25" long and 7lb in weight laker! Amazing!!

I'm not changing out the spoon! I decided to stick to the same spot, and we trolled in huge circles on the northern end for about 40 minutes, but no more hits. Decided to go back down south again, just for a change.As we almost hit the southern end, another strike on the dipsy. By the way my dad reels it in, I can tell it's a small one - turned out to be about a 13-14" brown. What a beautiful fish! We let him out quickly and decided to call it a day, as the sun was getting high and hot and we felt accopmlished "enough" for the day.

Late at night ordered another Heartland rod and a Convector reel from Amazon, and more braid. Wow you guys weren't joking - this really IS possible!!!

In the pic, my dad with his catch of the day (year? 10 years? hmm)