steelhead'r

I been looking at the fishing reports.  It has a lot of pictures of kids holding fish. They all have big smiles.  With schools closed and sports and other entertainment stuff closed lets hope there is more family bonding.  We need it.  Icing on the cake would be that with more free time on our hands that it gives us time or more time to read.  A good starter would be the Holy Bible.

12 hours ago, GAMBLER said:

It will be a good time to do it since the cormorants are not back in town yet.


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yes but two months less of high nutrient food.  they will be smaller and survival will be less.

Vortex 3-9x40. several models available depending on what you want to pay.  Super bright.  unconditional guarantee.  Use to be nothing but Leuopold.  Not now

Do you tie your braid directly to the diver or use a swivel?

Like new. 12 ga. 1000 wads  200 empty shells  powder measurers.  New $650 asking $250.  Rochester area pickup

I fish a 16 footer with my brother. we use 2 riggers 2 wire divers and either 2 leads ( 1 color,3 colors or 5 colors) on inline boards or a 7 color or 10 color down the shoot.  Since you're alone with a 3 rod limit i'd use 2 riggers and 1 wire diver.  The diver catches more fish than lead over time

Each gun has it's own identity.  Buy three kinds of ammo and shoot 5 shots of each on separate targets.  Which ever groups the best go with that ammo  

Well to get back to the start of this thread, where are the returning salmon?  My credentials is that I worked in DEC fisheries for 35 years and fished Great Lakes steelhead and salmon since the mid 70's. I started in Michigan tribs but found the jewel of the Great Lakes called Salmon River.  I was on the river 25-30 weekends between Labor Day and the spring ESLO at the end of april. My lake fishing was just to fill in in my off season. Then the resident landowner screwed up the right to fish navigable waters. About the same time as DEC and Ontario cut stocking numbers and the catch dropped. I got spoiled with the reduced numbers of fish and rarely walk the streams any more. I'm left to just lake fishing the lake now.  Its Oct 1st the peak of the salmon run isn't until around Columbus Day.  Salmon will run earlier though if there is a rise in water levels ( August if they had a tube race) not primarily water temp. We had that on Salmon River with daily raising and lowering of water releases for hydroelectric generation. Then they messed that up with a constant slightly higher than low flow.  With the great salmon catch this year in the lake runs in the streams will come.  We have not had rains enough raise stream levels so not many fish are in the tribs. but with salmon changing biologically to spawn they will run soon regardless of water levels. As for Vinnie I fished with him before he had a boat and still fish with him.  He is the most fine tuned fisherman in details and observations.  Listen to him.

On 7/18/2019 at 8:39 AM, Lucky13 said:

You must be forgetting the literally hundreds of inland launches, all of which are free unless they are in a campground where you pay the day use fee.    Yes, I know, many will only handle car toppers and canoes, but I don't envision little machines full of money being left out in remote spots.

 

But I'm a big supporter of user fees, you will note that our former DECer indicated that the stumbling block to upgrading facilities is money, and user fees are a fair source of money.  Just because I registered my car does not mean I get to ride on the roads for free, I also pay gasoline taxes, and for the quickway, tolls!

When DEC started in 1973 it was agreed on that DEC would manage and build small sites and OPR (parks) would take care of the larger sites.  it is unfeasible for dec to collect launching fees on these small sites. Sites like Oak Orchard west side and Sampson on Seneca lake are parks. The public use section of DEC kept trying f or years to get a small fraction of 1% of the gas sales tax which would be more than enough to build new sites and manage all DEC sites. They may be still trying to get that money but state legislators are very stingy with money. Boat launches are not on their radar

after thought about ramp.  Since this in the wetland you would need a wetlands permit due to the filling. probably the biggest obstacle in this project

I use to manage this site and other region 8 launches when I worked for the state.  The only solution is to revamp the launching area, ramp and docks.  T he turn around area would have to be raised a foot or more to prevent its flooding. With the extreme diiference in water levels. The ramp needs to be extended to meet the new turn around area without changing the slope of the ramp (13 1/2% to 15 1/2% slope). Or replaced entirely.  the docks would be the same, revamped or replaced. they need to be removed in the winter due to the massive ice flow in the spring.  talking lots of bucks.   

Trophy is in the eyes of the catcher.

retire.  Then you'll have lots of time to fish.  good to see you're still out there.  See ya at sandy sometime

anyone else having a problem with getting updated wave forecast from Weather Underground?

13 hours ago, Bada Bing said:

Medicine Man

great name but it is/was used by a druggist out of the Oak

I've always heard that if it taste good it's not heathy.  Does that mean if it's heathy it doesn't taste good.

Yeh Windburn that's me.  Glad you still have the Steelhead'r and still catching fish.  I still miss it now and then when i want to fish and its too rough for our 16 footer.  good luck this year and maybe we can hook up fishing.

Last week my son saw two longbeards at two locations strutting and gobbling.  Oh Boy

9 hours ago, chinook35 said:

WHAT???


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On ‎2‎/‎14‎/‎2018 at 6:40 AM, jimski2 said:

You who elected Trump are the culprits who caused this. When Obama and his gun law history created paranoia among the owners who hoarded more guns but now stopped purchasing more guns feeling more secure with Trump in office. Yes I voted for Trump but if Hillary was elected guns and ammo sales would have picked up.

Yup. Same thing happened to Gander Mountian.  After opening too many stores to fast in bad locations they thought Hilary was a sure thing. with high gun sales before the election they bought 500 million dollars worth of guns, Trump won and they couldn't make payments.  

Yes the flooding will bring more nutrients to the lake.  Adding nutrients increase the bottom of he food chain and is carried up to the top predator.  However I don't think the volume of nutrients in this event will add much to the large volume of Lake Ontario.  Also zeebs will feed on this nutrient increase

Still praying for you all along.  God bless you

I investigated fishkills for DEC for many years.  It doesn't seem that an updwelling would be possible this time of year.  The deep water temp should be 39 degrees,  At this temp water is the most dense.  Surface temps are very close to 39.  Fish die when they  experience a large change in water temp as in summer.  Resulting in a drastic change in their metabolism.  Also all fish species in that effected area are killed, not just one.  One species usually indicates a natural mortality like a disease.   

lots of good advice above. Decades ago I started stream guiding and it didn't last to long. The reason I quit could  apply to chartering too.  I didn't want to make my hobby my job.

C&R?  my granpappy  always told me they have a better chance in the water than they do in the cooler

Been praying for him right along.  I'll be there