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    Cannon Optimum downrigger Bottom tracking - Myth and Reality

    in Questions About Trout & Salmon Trolling?

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    57 minutes ago, arni said:

    Hi  58Johnson, thank you very much for super-detailed response. I feel much better now. Have another question - can I adjust sonar transducer signal emission cone electronically? I know from my past experience you can adjust signal cone by making metal cone and experimenting with shape :). My dilemma - should I buy Cannon dedicated transducer and tilt a bit to view my rigger weight position or should I seel my Helix 7 and buy Helix 8 compatible with Cannon. My concerns about having 2 transducers next to each other about 1 yard. Most likely "main" signal will be an issue but signal harmonics could be strong enough to interfere the second transducer signal spectrum. What is your opinion? 

    I have 4 transducers on my boat 2 depth finders(1 chirp) fishhawk and my cannon .You need to find the frequency's of each one and don't run the same frequency on any one at the same time 

    Cannon Optimum downrigger Bottom tracking - Myth and Reality

    in Questions About Trout & Salmon Trolling?

    Posted

    I'm old school were we just added and subtracted so I'll just leave the drag loose [emoji1]

    I generally use 3ft to 12 ft as my distance from bottom. 3ft for Lakers and 12 ft or so for Browns.
    Blowback setting will depend on speed, downrigger ball weight, and current. If you are a math wiz you can do a
    A squared plus B squared equals C squared calc.


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    Cannon Optimum downrigger Bottom tracking - Myth and Reality

    in Questions About Trout & Salmon Trolling?

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    13 hours ago, 58Johnson said:

    I have used bottom tracking and did not have your experience - I fish Cayuga Lake with dramatic rises and dropoffs.

    With practice and experience - like many, many things fishing, you can get bottom tracking to work as advertised. 

    Most importantly, use your sonar screen to watch your downrigger ball to track your relative closeness to bottom. Unless you are really deep, this is usually possible. Also watch your boom and cable for signs of touching bottom. Believe it or not, there is a technique called bottom bouncing that calls for you to intentionally touch bottom with your downrigger ball. You may need to readjust your transducer angle and use a setting on the finder to use a wider transducer cone to be able to see your ball. Adjusting gain helps too. Play around and you can figure it out. You need to stop expecting a video game fishing experience. Cannon is not going to do ALL the work for you - (just picking on you). Sounds like you are well along the learning curve that comes with these riggers and their new technology

     

    My pet peeve with bottom tracking is where you troll into a bait ball and the system thinks that it is actually a hump in the bottom structure and it raises the ball up, over, then back down the top of the bait ball. I learned to tap an up or down key to instantly stop that unwanted action. You then have to restart bottom tracking again once you clear the bait ball.

     

    I am unfortunately so hooked on the other features of Cannon's downriggers I know I will spend the extra coin on the Digitroll or Optima riggers when my current setup needs replacement. The digital readouts. The simple up and down keys. The preset depth settings. Easy to use Auto Up. Jigging function. Plus much more. Overly expensive, but addicting.  

     

    ps. - You should not be losing rigger weights very often at all. If it snags, your clutch should slip and you will have about two hundred feet of time to figure out and execute a game plan. All part of the fun chaos that gives you great stories for back at the dock.

     

     

     

     

    I just purchased 2 Optima riggers but haven't put the boat in the water to try them yet. I was wondering if the bottom tracking would do that on bait balls and thanks for the info. Is there any particular settings you use on the bottom tracking? Thanks 

    Planer board/otter board line

    in Tackle and Techniques

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    18 hours ago, tim said:


    Thanks, can’t help but starting to get things ready won’t be long now. Even though it’s snowing like hell out in front of my house right now


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    Im sorry I just checked out my amazon purchases and its 300 lb braid 

    Planer board/otter board line

    in Tackle and Techniques

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    Yes I've tried just about everything out there and when pulling just spoons off my big boards nothing compares to the amish releases even if you want to change the outside spoon they release easily without having to pull all of them in

    I am going to try using 1.5 inch aluminum carabiners on my releases this season, Thinking they will slide easy plus clip on and of quick as well. Has anyone tried them before?


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    Salmon candy

    in Questions About Trout & Salmon Trolling?

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    Before Russell sold to Reel Shot I bought all my Stingers from him at Anglers Avenue because I was able to get them with gold or copper backs. I feel like in the spring they out fish the standard crome backs. When he started Salmon Candy I bought a few 3 packs of flys and did very well and have since bought alot of his flashers and flys and I love his videos. Who said you can't teach an old dog new tricks [emoji848]

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