hard knox

Was reading Dan Keating big water wisdom and he mentioned browns liked higher speeds . got me thinking could I run my optimizers for them they don't start working until 3.2 mph and up. When I run them I pull only them they can do some damage on steelhead and kings on the right day.

So I normally fish for browns at a range from 1.8mph to 2.5 but recently read that browns like steelhead like much higher speeds . when I an offshore in search mode for kings and steelhead I run optimizers at 3.7 to 4.0 mph and do very well. What do you think a max speed could be for a good summer time Brown bight? 

I signed up for seatech and got explores guide service witch turned into a total nightmare .it was bad the best thing that happened was covid hit and we started doing it by webex witch sucked but caused me to total teach my self .i ended up doing way better then I could have imagined doing if instructors were relied on . what ever you decide there are some great YouTube videos on Captains classes there is a younger guy doing a bunch of nav videos that are really good .good luck

Likely a good point the super glow just might catch more fishermen then fish.thanks guys

Made multiple times got a low glow out of them but nothing like a moonshine glow spoon going to look for another brand to try and advice will be greatly appreciated thanks.

HB2 did you use createx or a different brand?

Ok thanks I will try that I did white then fluorescent then glow base and failed !

So I have been painting spoons with createx airbrush paints and doing well but need advice on glow paint recommendations. Tried using createx 212 glow base over fluorescent green and it won't glow even though the glow base seems to glow just fine. Any advice would be great thanks!

I sent you a pm last night

Went to web site was very limited in details and selection did not see these flashers listed for sale .

Are these the smaller size hot fish ? And do you have any larger size if the are the small ones .

I take it your not selling these personally

Just received my new big eye flies and CHIP from Cme trolling did a fantastic job on them they look great and the quality in the fly and tournament tied rig is the best i have seen plus a great price as well , THANKS CHIP 

All I  can say is wow chip you have outdone your self with this great looking fly ! Thought I was all set with the ff and meat rigs that I hade already bought from you but these just look like a must have . As a charter captain I am always looking for that little thing that could make a big difference on a tough bite and these should go well in that bag of tricks.  At this point i will take 1 each of #34,43,92.93,64 I will give you a call with paypal info and address thanks ERIC

Just now, hard knox said:

You can also use blue tooth and link some sounders like my raymarine and have a second screen at back boat .

My guess is to run navionics is a cheaper option then a nav unit '

I have one believe its a sea sick wobbler in a moonshine rv series i have not caught with mine but looks like you have by the tooth marks .

620 ,650 is depth curve so 650 feet of water and 37 to 4.0 mph is my down speed at probe i run two programs one is with mag and stinger spoons at speeds from 2.0 to 3.0 mph  and the other program is 3.7 to 4.2 with OPTIMIZERS spoons i let weather and fish tell me witch one to run . I could not say if its common or not within the fleet but i dont follow the masses i find what works for me and go with it and do well most of the time . AND YES SPEED KILLS !

Took the wife and 2 beagles to Oswego for a little fishing got a late start due to lack  of sleep night before dogs were not to keen  about sleeping in a boat with all the sloshing going on and the go fast boats coming in at all hours of the night . Got started around 9 am really did not find any  king action but found a half a dozen nice steelies one the 250 curve stayed with for a few hours then the bight switched to bump offs then shut down .Went back to the dock and got some lunch and rest hit the water again from 5 pm till sunset looking for browns found  a good pocket of browns just east of yellow marker in 60 feet of water landed a dozen and lost a few more .Hit the water around 6 next morning and went straight out to the 620 looking for steelies as i have a good spot out there was a slow start so started working out deeper on the 650 found a couple birds and bait on a current line and game on landed 4 kings lost 3 and  a half a dozen bump offs then headed in by 11.00 .Took all are steelies on the 250 down 100 feet at 3.7 to 4.0 mph and all king came from 650 down 85 at the same speeds browns were 55 down at 2.4 in 60 feet of water and all fish were spoon bights .Me and the wife had a great time my off the grid dogs not so much they like to chase chipmunks ,mice ,birds and any other small creature the can find they even treed a woodchuck the other day did no they could climb a tree lol.

Yes i run a down temp and speed probe and feel that well spoon color can make a diffrence temp ,depth .speed ,direction of troll and location in relation to water depth fish are relating to is far more important then spoon color . We caught fish on many spoons but a mag mongolian  beef is a great spoon .

They do cause extra drag do to resistance pulling out to the side i use with a 10 lb ball and the white plastic winger and if i want them to run at 100 feet i let out extra cable to account for blow back and angle . As to wear to buy go to ebay and search winger they are really much money i love mine .And as far as Wrights goes you can launch and park .GOOD LUCK 

We catch fish all day if there is some cloud cover and a little chop all the better .

People wont call if there is no price !

Saw a break in the weather called my dad that is 81 asked him if he wanted to go fishing before we new it we were in Oswego launched first light and pulled spoons on 4 riggers due to temp down at 100 feet , There were lots of salmon to be caught between the 140 to 200 landed 19 keep 6 matures then went in for the day. Back at in the morning put all mags on looking to weed out the little ones by 10 we landed 10 more good fish keep 6 matures and called it a day . I guess any time you land 29 salmon in a day in a half its hard not to have a blast . My old man went back home to NH tired very sore and happy man i dont no how many more times we will get to do this together .Was complete spoon bight never put a fly or meat down had to set riggers ate 135 and 185 on the wingers to stay in temp due to speed and current .

Well all vessels out there should be treating each other with respect some guys just dont get it and think they own the place . The next time hail them on vhf witch they are required by law to monitor at all times and ask them to please maintain a safe distance . If they are abeam of you they are a give way vessel and must give way by law that being said if that does not work pull all your lines set your riggers at 100 feet and wipe out ever line they got that will likely get your point across . I have fished for many years for bluefin out of NEWENGLAND and  you learn to try and be nice first and when that dosnt work stand your ground . GOOD LUCK AND TIGHT LINES !