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    King Slammin Shakedown 4-14

    in New York Fishing Reports - Lake Ontario (South Shore)

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    Are you kidding? If more people hunted them, there would be more of an effect. That's common sense. If less people hunt them, they become overpopulated. When coyote are overpopulated, they become deer killers. They are also known to kill most, if not all fox in area when the coyote population is too high.


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    Research suggests that when aggressively controlled, coyotes can increase their reproductive rate by breeding at an earlier age and having larger litters, with a higher survival rate among young. This allows coyote populations to quickly bounce back, even when as much as 70 percent of their numbers are removed.
    It is nearly impossible to completely eradicate coyotes from an area. Despite bounties and large-scale efforts to kill coyotes over the last 100 years, coyotes have in fact expanded their range throughout the U.S. and Canada tremendously. One study even found that killing 75 percent of a coyote population every year for 50 years would still not exterminate the population.

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    Lake trout question

    in Open Lake Discussion

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    Just a couple of additional things to the good info above. As you can see from the depths mentioned the strategy of fishing just one particular  depth regardless of where you are in the lake is of limited value - especially at his time of the year as much of the bait is deep yet and that will primarily guide their locations. Lakers are creatures of habit but they are also opportunists with a somewhat varied diet. At this point in the season some of the big ones may venture into shallower water to scrounge because they don't fear other predators (such as big pike in the Finger Lakes that they actively compete with in the shallows) but for the most part groups of lakers can be found out deeper especially around any bait (which is often very bottom oriented at this time and sometimes present but hard to see on many depth finders) and the lakers are most often also found very near the bottom as well because of this rather than suspended as they can be in the warmer water temps. So this pretty much guides the strategy. You may want to start out at the 70 ft mentioned and work outward on diagonals from there to the 2 hundred range and then back with your setups very near bottom (e.g. peanuts and Spin N Glows behind cowbells) or downrigger weights with short leads on the setups. They are often curious about any commotion near bottom probably thinking it is an active school of bait on the move or something.

    Thank you for explaining that. I have good electronics and have been scanning for bait, but need more practice. I use cowbells with spin and glows and dipsys with spoons with little luck so far. The scans show a lot of fish but no bites. I'm thinking I need to find the active ones that are feeding on bait. Just a matter of time before I lock into them. I will work those depths and scan fist before putting lines out.

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    King Slammin Shakedown 4-14

    in New York Fishing Reports - Lake Ontario (South Shore)

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    Pay attention to the current state of our fishery and you would have a totally different opinion. I have lived here my entire life and pay tax dollars on my property, licenses, and tackle that find their way into the fishery. I catch and release numerous steelhead, Browns, and kings every year. The lakers are severely overpopulated with an established natural reproduction and federal stocking. I will continue to keep my boats limit and encourage more to do the same in hopes of restoring balance in the predator/ prey population. I usually release a fair amount of kings in the spring as well but plan on keeping my limit, again hoping to achieve balance.


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    Lake trout have a slow breeding pattern. They breed little to none compared to other species. If pressured to much their numbers can fall dramatically leaving a breeding gap and overall low population to regain over time. I also eat lakers are they bad to eat?

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    King Slammin Shakedown 4-14

    in New York Fishing Reports - Lake Ontario (South Shore)

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    For the same reason we kill coyotes. Population control. There's way too many and they eat the alewives and emerald shiners that our salmon and perch live on


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    Killing coyotes does not do a thing. The DEC did a study and proved hunting coyotes and killing them has little to no effect on the main population.

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    Oak Orchard brown town 4/13

    in New York Fishing Reports - Lake Ontario (South Shore)

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    Beautiful good friday! Started right out of the Oak at 6am 10 to 12 fow headed west. We were working with 8 lines 6 on the planer boards and 2 on the riggers. Bay rats, spoons, thunderstick jrs, rapala shadow rap. Slow start but around 845am to 1045am is was on! took two on the purple shadow rap off the rigger 100 ft back (best lure ever I catch everything on this, get one 3 to the 5ft diver.) Orange and bronze mooselook spoon, brown trout bay rat (took 2), green uv thunderstruck jr (scored a 10lber). They were biting on everything had one double and went 6 for 6 on browns. Lost a few lures was hitting bottom maybe because leads were too long or just hit a shallow spot also lost one to a pike. As it slowed down we headed out for Lakers started scanning at 60 fow screen was full of fish trolled cow bells and dipsys all in 60 to 78 fow only taking one laker. All fish were released to live another day! Great time with my dad and brother!1492271686417.thumb.jpg.c0d78b268d1adb7d703dc906820053d6.jpg1492271698745.thumb.jpg.e70557b3bcf89fcf45c8cf36dab047b7.jpg1492271718820.thumb.jpg.eab5c9a4876bbf5c6ff3592fef6d7cab.jpg1492271937808.thumb.jpg.331dbb3e942e691369ac15d076529f2e.jpg
     
    Couldn't post the pic of the other 10lber
     
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    Lake trout question

    in Open Lake Discussion

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    Ibay the lakers are usually east of Shipbuilders on the flats out in deeper water.  When I had my boat on Ibay, I fished them 135' or deeper all season.  This time of the year, I would find them all the way out to 220' on the bottom.  Out of the Oak,  I have heard reports of guys getting them good once they hit 70'.

    Ok thanks I will give it a try I have some days off coming up so I will have time to try both spots. I will post my report and I hope to catch them off my gambler rigs. Thanks again and see you out there.

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