UpGrady

Sutter's might have an empty slip or two as well, the 10' beam hurt me at Mayer's as well and had to move a few years ago. Call Joe Schum at 482-4112.

I am typically fishing off I-Bay with just my wife or one other person. Two riggers and two wire divers are all I need all summer. I do have two Fireline diver setups which work great as well, but fleas are more of a problem with them than wire.

A NE tends to upwell the lake from the Western basin and propagates Eastward, a SW will do the trick working East to West.

My point here is that the lake is overdue for a summer upwelling and it won;t take much of a NE to make it happen, they we fishing 30-60 ft down today at the Oak with a pretty good NE and the water temp off Rochester dipped to 47 deg, 30' down a mile offshore, so it's telling me that an upwelling is coming and don't be suprised to find ice water onshore from Rochester Westward Thursday AM...

The Oak is rough out of the NE right now, deep temp off Rochester is at 47 degrees this morning... Oh boy!

Frank,

Good luck this weekend. Temp is always a guide as to where to start, but fish the screen and change directions... the lake is like a big stream, presentation is everything some days and being 10 degrees offcourse can be the difference. You can never try enough stuff every day, that's what keeps us coming back for more!

Frank,

So, Jerry really hasn't told you all of his secrets yet?!? I've been down an engine for a month battling a coolant issue, hopefully getting resolved today and plan on being out Sat and Sun this weekend... we'll see!

Well, it's been a while since I've made it out between family commitments, weather and a few engine issues... but made it out this morning, fished from 8- noonish off the bay and bit east... started in 100, made it out to about 190 at the most, 140-150 was pretty solid with bait and fish 100-150 down, temp was very tight at 125-130 down and varied from 47-65 degrees, speed and directional dependent. Could not buy a rigger bite, three diver bites with 2 year olds is all we could get to go. Nice morning and great to be back out again!

Yankee,

That was not the intent of my comment... just merely, personal preference, but in my experience highly torqued drags on divers=lost fish and tackle. But, it's working for you, so what more can anyone say?

I run snubbers and rubber band the wire to keep drags loose on wire... I can't believe Yankee esp with the torqued drags... sure is a personal preference... my humble opinion is also that you can probably get away without the snubber on kings better than big steelhead that have the potential to clear water dragging the diver out as well...

I've been fishing divers for 20 years with many captains and other friends... the number of times I've seen a crack off of a leader with a snubber is zero... I cannot say that about without a snubber... I'll take the insurance policy everytime rather than wonder about the one that got away...

Keep it simple... Pledge...

Line guy,

I just won a eBay auction for a bunch of Ray Jeff Hardware, included were 3 probes, 2 readouts and a transducer... I plan on sorting thru the good versus crap this weekend and will be parting with any spare stuff... Regardless, I sent my original probe to an outfit in Miami who has access to the old boards and circuitry last winter, so I will have at least several probes which can be reconditioned by them if you'd like, we can talk after the weekend and I will have a better idea of what I have.

I still have a few "Goto" Flashers in my box as well... mainly browns, but a few I like off high slide divers for steelies and coho as well... I still remember the first bonafide 30lber we ever took on my dad's boat won the youth division of the Wayne County in 1985 on a chart/glow Ontario Flasher...

Welcome back... the lake never quits calling you does it?

Unfortunately you moved back at the time of the decline, the gobies have taken over the habitat and the smallies are inconsistent from Hedges to Pultney in the typical 15-30' depths... have heard of better reports around Sodus, but not like it was thru the 90's until a few years ago... trolling is a better answer for them, but not something I wish to do. I am sure you wll get some more posts on this topic as well, esp/ with the season coming close. Have even been hearing of smallies being caught in 100' of water trolling for salmon as well, so things are changing, but nature has a way of stabilizing, just be patient like we were with zebra mussels...

5F Black/Silver Evil Eyes were hot at times off riggers as well as wire divers. Sutton 06, 88's off riggers and 38's off the meatballs.

If I were in a sea of dinks, I might consider going old school on them with a dodger/squid and lite flutter spoon program and slow way down with some varied lead lengths...

I can remember back in the day when the motto was "Speed kills"... 2.0-2.2 was the target with a yeck, slammer, sutton program and dodgers on the meatballs...

Alright, I've allowed myself to dragged into this one now as well... I did not fish the pro-am this year, but have fished it sporadically with various captains over the past 20 years. I can appreciate the fact that the fishing was so good this year that most were boxed out far earlier than they would like to be and the fact that they were generally smaller fish than normal was disappointing, but this is a marathon and not a sprint. If you've actually fished these pro-ams over a number of years, you would realize that the number of fish caught this year is a huge anomoly and should be taken as a mere blip on the overall radar screen. We are fisherman and we should enjoy the excellent fishery that existed for the weekend and take it as you go because , these same fisherman might very well be scratching themselves to box 8 small fish in a entire day this weekend.

Not to bring politics into this but the same goes for our wonderful ex presidential wannabe turned environmentalist guru who wants to take 50 years of worth of climotological data and form a judgment on the previous billions of years and the billions of years to come. Don't get caught up in the hoopla of the moment and foresake the real data and details of the reality.

Let's keep it in perspective... I hate killing small fish as well, but that's what the fishery gave most everyone this year. A few managed to find the secrets to larger fish and should be applauded for a job well done...

And my two cents, a unified tourney structure across all ports with the same rules is the way to go... creates less confusion for first timers and less to remember for seasoned vets...

Mark-

Gotta do my part to help the family!

Well maintained, in great shape and the cabin floor is awesome!!!

My bachelor party wouldn't have been the same without this machine!!!

Frank,

Good deal, at least you found a few fish...

I never made it out, my crew all backed out with family commitments on Saturday.

Frank,

I am blaming the goofy weather for lack of a better thing to do. I did not feel that the water was too clear offshore, it had a bit of color to it and the temps were inline with what I would expect to find this time of the year, so I was hopeful in finding some action out there, but not a thing.

Inshore browns:

I typically run board lines a minimum of 125' back, up to 175 at times. My rigger lines are generally 50' back 3' down.

Offshore:

Board lines 100-125', rigger lines generally about 8-10' on my deeper sets and 15-30' on shallower sets. I usually do not go longer than 8' leads once the riggers are below 50'.

Well... the dirty rotten filthy skunk rode me hard all day today... been quite a while since I fished a decent day with nothing to show for it...

One bite off Shipbuilders in tight this morning, then worked out to 150-200 fow in 44-45 degree water... a few random marks, but no takers anywhere to be found from the surface to 100 ft down...

I have been humbled... back at it again on Saturday.

Frank,

Usually on 16, maybe 8.

Frank,

Coho was off the board with an orange bomber, the king off the 16' rigger - 50' back with an NK green NBK.

Looks like a few of the guys figured them out in the plume, but I certainly did not see anyone doing much of anything... but then again, if you've been out all spring, it's much easier to get a program together!

Give me a shout if you get out on Tuesday.

Well... in looking at the leader board there were some fish off Rochester, but my program was not working... left I-Bay anticipating working the 150'+ depths, motored out and saw nothing but gin clear cold water, so headed into the river plume and found very slow action... quite a few boats, but only saw one other hook up around me all morning. We managed a coho and teenager, but that's it...

Back out Tuesday (work permitting)...

Capt Pete will forever be remembered at the Oak...

Peter R. Petroski

Albion: Saturday April 26, 2008 at age 68 after a long & courageous battle with Lung Disease. He is survived by his companion Rose Welles and family; daughters, Chasa and Kasha Petroski; brother Donald (Donna) Piotrowski; sister, Carol (Junior) Delaney; many nieces, nephews and friends. Predeceased by his parents Peter and Theresa Piotrowski. Peter was a 27 year Veteran of the Rochester City Fire Department and also a Charter Captain out of Oak Orchard 4 C's Marina.

Friends may call Thursday 4-8 PM at Walker Brothers Co. Funeral Home Inc., 15 West Avenue Spencerport. Funeral Mass Friday at 11:00 AM at St. John's Church Spencerport. Interment Holy Sepulchre Cemetery. In lieu of flowers contributions to Humane Society @ Lollypop Farm, 99 Victor Road, Fairport, NY 14550 or School of the Holy Childhood 100 Groton Parkway, Rochester, NY 14623 in his memory.