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  1. Thank you for the reply.
  2. Somewhere around Oswego/Mexico... Looking for recommendations for a marina where I can pay to store my boat year round, on a trailer... with access to a ramp for launching. Also an idea of what I would expect to pay for this. The boat would most likely only be used for 4 to 6 trips (5-7 days each trip) per year. So no need for a dock space. Thanks for any help.
  3. jobsite

    Sold / Closed 86 Bayliner

    It's not often you find something for sale that turns out to be even better than described or shown in photographs... But this boat was one of those times. Jim, it was a pleasure meeting you. My wife and I are very happy with the boat and look forward to putting many hours of use into it this summer. I was surprised how well it towed/braked. Hardly knew it was behind me. Except the fuel use. For now, its parked in the yard and I will be doing a few changes/minor repairs to make it "mine". Becky says the first change needs to be removing the "Hookin ain't easy" decals from the side. Hahaha! I guess she doesnt see the humor... I think her favorite features so far are the plush seating and bright cabin lighting. She already has evening trips, listening to the ball game, on her must-do list this summer. I look forward to visiting with you in the future. Would love to get on some walleyes with you. Ive never trolled specifically for them, so that would be a treat. Thanks again for a smooth transaction.
  4. Ok. I don't use my PayPal account much, so give me a few minutes to figure it out again. I will get the money sent tonight. Thank you!
  5. I will take 100 of the Eagle Claw 1/0. Let me know how to pay you and what I owe for shipping to Laconia, NH. Craig [email protected] Thank you!
  6. jobsite

    Sold / Closed 86 Bayliner

    Were you able to get any more photos? I checked here and my email, but saw none. Thanks.
  7. jobsite

    Sold / Closed 86 Bayliner

    Great, thank you. [email protected] if its easier to email them.
  8. jobsite

    Sold / Closed 86 Bayliner

    Do you have any photos of the cuddy, the deck and the motor box? Anything showing the interior setup would be great. Just trying to get a feel for the "fishability". Thank you.
  9. I have what you are looking for. Brand new in the box. Elite 7 hdi with 50/200 transducer upgrade and bonus Lowrance snap on cover. I sent you a PM with my contact info and price. Much cheaper than any price I found on line. It is not a refurbished unit. Bought it last winter and I just never put it on the boat.
  10. It just dawned on me... Tim Bromund, we met last July at the docks in Olcott while waiting for fuel at the pump. I think it was you and your son, if I remember right. I just noticed your boat name. Makes me wonder how many others I have met from here and never known it.
  11. Sorry for leading this thread off track with my ignorant verbosity... Hahaha. Will try to keep my posts shorter in the future and save these discussions for "in person" talks.
  12. Byoung62, you apparently didnt read my posts thoroughly. I expressed several times that I didnt think the charter captains were pricing incorrectly or too steeply. All I said regarding price was in regards to 800-1000 dollars being called dirt cheap. As far as tipping, I stated several times that tipping should be based as a gratuity for good service and not "expected" whether the service was good or not. I have zero problems with tipping and tipping well. My statement was that tips should not be mandatory for the mate to get paid. That is unfair to the mate. The reason I entered my pay for a day was as an example as why 800-1000 a day cannot be considered dirt cheap. I have far more expense into running my construction business than the items you listed... and yes, I have all the items you listed for boating also (minus the CG cert). Not once did I say a charter captain should not or could not charge 1000 per trip. I simply replied to a post saying that price could not be considered dirt cheap. If the market allows it, by all means charge it. I completely agree that the going rate of 350 to 500 for a charter on Lake O is low. Not once have I stated that dollar amount until now. My past posts that stated "not dirt cheap" were in regards to one specific post and the way it was worded. Yes, I completely agree that 500 for a trip on Lake O is inexpensive and well worth it. Heck, if I didnt have my own gear, I would pay that happily. The only thing I specifically said regarding Lake O charter pricing was that it would be more fair to all involved if the prices included pay for the mate. And I even stated that the prices should go up to cover that. Doing that would ensure that the mate is paid a fair wage even if the clients didnt tip. I have been a mate. Even on trips with very well off clients, lots of fish caught and many laughs amongst crew and clients... some people just dont tip. Luckily I was on a boat that paid me a fair wage regardless if I was tipped or not. The whole idea that a base price is given (say 500) and then the client finds out the day of the charter that another 200 is "expected" as tip to the mate and captain is not "up front pricing". Lots of people go on their "first ever" fishing charter every year. These people do not know ahead of time about this added expense. Most charter websites I have seen state the following - "tips are appreciated but not mandatory". That leaves people thinking the captain and mate are already receiving a wage. If it says "mate depends on tips as his/her wage", then that is a different story. But very rarely have I seen it stated that way. Lots of times, charters are booked over the phone and there is no discussion about tips. Wouldnt it just be easier to raise the rate 100 or 200 and state "unlike other charters, we have no hidden fees"? Haha. Eventually everyone would swap over to that system... all mates would be paid regardless of client opinion - and they would receive a tip "in addition" to their pay. Tip: a bonus... a gratuity. Yes, restaurants have tipping to waitstaff as well... but that system fails in most regards as well. A good majority of restaurants now require wait staff to "pool" their tips at the end of the night and split them. And its not uncommon for a portion of the tips to have to go to the cook, bus boy and host/hostess. How fair is that? One person may bust their butt making sure their tables are well served... another waitperson just skates by with the bare minimum service and yet in the end they get the same split of the tips. Plus their base pay is far lower than the bus boy, cook or host... Too many people "expecting" to get their fingers in those tips. Plain and simple, tips should be a bonus paid directly to the person providing service. I know this is way different than charters... but just providing another example of tips not being a fair form of income. I would much rather pay a charter a flat rate of 600 (knowing the mate was making a wage) and then tipping an additional 100 or more based solely on service, attitude and overall experience, than to pay 400 and be expected to pay a "tip" of 200 at the end, whether I enjoyed myself or not. Option A cost me 100-200 more, but would leave me with a much better impression. Not once did I say charter captains were charging too much. Go back and read my posts. If it came across that way, I am sorry. I tried to reiterate several times that this was not what I was saying. My comments that seem to have wound a few of you up were comments made in reply to ONE post and the way it was worded. Take a deep breath... realize I have no negative feelings and meant no ill will... and have a great day.
  13. Justtracytrolling, I was not referring to your post. Someone else made the comment that if you are paying less than 800 its dirt cheap and so you should add 200 in tips. That could mean a 800-1000 day of trolling on Lake O. Yes, the fishing can be great, but that is not "dirt cheap". Thats all I was getting at with that statement.
  14. Again... I think a lot of this is due to my initial comment... I never said the going charter rate is too high... I simply said 800-1000 dollars should not be referred to as dirt cheap like another poster stated... and that if the mates pay was figured into the up front fee, it would be more fair for everyone (especially the mate). A tip is a gift of generosity. It is not something that should be expected. Price a charter to include a mates pay, captains wage and all operating costs, even if it increases the up front cost. Easier for everyone. Also would stop captains from saying (as has been alluded to in this thread already) "people who dont tip will receive bad service next time". If you arent pricing your charter rate correctly, thats your fault not the clients. Time to establish a better business plan. Another thing mentioned here... Someone stated how charter captains have a limited time to make their money. Who chose to be in a seasonal business? Wasnt the client. I grew up with a grandfather (who was basically my dad) and uncle that were guides. I have worked for guides. I have considered being a guide. I have several friends that are guides. Only one of them makes 100% of his income off guiding. The rest all have jobs that fill the other season(s). Only reason the one is able to make 100% off it is he guides year round - ice fishing, open water fishing AND fall hunting. Kind of like a landscaper I know. He didnt want to have to work in the winter so he went up on his lawn mowing prices. He got the winter off... but he got the summer off too as all his clients hired people with better prices. You cant always have your cake and eat it too. I know exactly what goes into chartering. Been there. There are days that suck and days that leave you smiling ear to ear. Its a job you have to love to do. If you dont love it, and are in it only for the money, your clients will know. They wont be back. A good guide also doesnt necessarily have larger expenses than a bad guide. Good equipment is well kept equipment. Well kept equipment lasts many years. Depreciate items over their life span and fishing can be a relatively inexpensive journey. I probably have 20 grand in rods, reels and tackle for the many fisheries I frequent. I certainly didnt buy all that stuff in one year... more like twenty years. And the cost lessens every year. You can only own so much stuff. At least that is what my wife tells me.
  15. Well said, Sk8man. To be clear, I definitely am not saying charter captains shouldnt charge for the behind the scenes labor... my main points were #1 -tipping should be voluntary. #2 - mates shouldnt depend solely on tips for a paycheck. #3 $800 base rate plus $200 tip is not "dirt cheap" for a day of trolling on Lake O. At least not to the average angler.
  16. I will put in an eight hour day of building a house, supplying liability, health, vehicle and workers comp insurance, state licensing, fuel to get me to and from the job site, all tools and tool maintenance, staging/ladders and it is three hundred per day. I dont know how 800 for a one day charter is dirt cheap? And then add 200 more for tip?? I can and do fuel my truck to drive from NH, rent a room for a week, fuel my boat and fish on my own for a full week for less than that charter cost. To whom is 800 dirt cheap? I do not agree with that statement at all. Dirt cheap to Donald Trump maybe. But there are a lot of people that love to fish, cant afford a boat and make only 300 per week. Explain how spending a weeks pay for an eight hour fishing trip (split with three other people) is dirt cheap please. Even if you toss in a nights stay - many many places out there are 30 per night per person. And you are seriously including posting photos on the internet as a job skill they should be thanked for? Those pictures are free advertising and with todays phones, it takes all of five seconds to post a photo.
  17. With the cost of charters nowadays, I see no reason why the mate isnt receiving a paycheck from the "base rate". A tip is simply a tip. It should not be depended on as a paycheck. I find it wrong that people do business that way. That would be like me (construction business owner) giving a customer a price to put new siding on their house, they agree and pay a deposit, then when I show up to do the work I put up a sign saying "laborers work for tips" and the homeowner then having to pay 20% of my "contracted price" to pay my employee... even though we already agreed to a price that the job would cost. Doesnt make any sense to me. No matter what business it is - pricing should be clear and in print. Its more fair to everyone that way. Especially the mates. Then the mate gets paid even if the captain failed to find fish. This is the main reason I do not hire charter boats. I have heard of several charter captains complain when they dont get big tips. If you believe your service is worth more, raise the rates. If you want a "tip" provide exceptional service (conversation, education, sightseeing, etc) even if the fish arent biting. Seems no matter where you go nowadays you see a tip jar out.
  18. That top looks great! You'll be happy to have that roll up door for more than simply access to the bow... will help with ventilation... those enclosures are like greenhouses when the sun is out. That boat is looking like a fishing machine!!
  19. Great idea on the rails and the rocket launcher! Safe and functional. Very nice. You have them powder coated yet?? Haha. Willy, nice rod holders!!
  20. Just posted pics of the planer mast I made for a friends boat last year... figured I'd add this transom board to perhaps help someone else needing something similar. My friends boat is used for many things... freshwater, saltwater, duck hunting... so the downriggers needed to be easily removable. Since the riggers we used were my old cheapos, we also didn't want to mount the quick detach bases to the boat. So, I came up with a transom board that is held in place with only one bolt on each end. The bolt goes through the board and through a hole I drilled through the aluminum rail. I used a large washer between the bolt head and the 2x6 to spread the stress over a larger area. When the board is off, all you have left is two quarter inch holes (one on each side) that are in a spot that causes no problems. I screwed a 2x4 under the 2x6 top board to be sure it had strength when we kneeled, sat or leaned against it. I had some pipe left over from making the planer mast (in the mast thread), so I used that to make a strong rod holder on each side. I through bolted the lower bolt through the pipe and 2x4. This acted as a rod stop at the bottom of the holder as well. The upper fastener is a screw... I drilled a hole through the pipe just bigger than the screw threads and then drilled the outside hole with a bit just larger than the screw head. Most of the pressure is against the back fastener, so this screw was just a 2" exterior grade decking screw. We used these rod holders for the wire line dipsies. Plenty strong! I left a little overhang on each side of the boat to be sure the wood wasn't weakened too much by the bolt hole being too near the edge. I cut small 45 degree angles on each corner so if the boat rubbed up against a dock or something, the board would be less likely to catch. With the quick detach downrigger bases, we were able to spin the riggers around during transport, so the rigger arms weren't sticking outside the boat. Could have added a couple more rod holders in the center for storage... or drilled a hole for a net holder or pliers holder... but for a quick project, this worked out quite well. I clamped the board to my tailgate to allow me to temporarily mount and line up the downriggers and the rod holders. I even ran lines out to simulate lines in water. Wanted to make sure the rod tips wouldn't hit while on the water. And on the boat for a test run here in NH... The following week we hit Lake O for browns and lakers... the board worked great.
  21. Here is my take on a planer board mast... Made this for a friends Lund last spring for a Lake O brown trout trip. We needed something easily removable, as the boat is used for many things, not just trolling. The galvanized pipe is held in place with two "u" straps bolted to the front bow wall and then a screw through the strap and pipe to keep the pipe from twisting while in use. For line, I used braided mason line. I believe its rated for 220 pounds or so. Plenty strong and visible. To hold the line, I used a couple empty line spools. I didn't have any threaded rod to mount them in line across the pipe, so I used two bolts and placed one slightly higher than the other. I added washers and wing nuts to be able to loosen and tighten the spools. I also added a small bolt with threaded coupler as a handle for winding the line. You couldn't reel in a planer with this, but it makes it easier to wind the line after its been pulled in by hand. Above the line reels, I placed two cleats to hitch the line onto when the planers are deployed. This keeps line from peeling off the reels in the waves. At the top, I put in two eye bolts, heavy springs and small, swiveling pulleys. The springs help take some of the shock out of the line on rough water. Simple dog snaps were used at the end of the line for quick detach. All parts were bought at Lowes. I think it cost me about $25 or less. We were using my Big Jon Otter Boats and this mast set-up worked great. We used my cooler with rod racks on the sides to hold the planer rods/reels. Worked out quite well. Proof that it worked... yeah, it was a bit chilly.
  22. WillyC, if you launch from the usual spot... its 13 miles to 400 feet of water.
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