Stopped by the house on the way to a job around 10 am and 3 guys were heading out... I asked if they were crazy... no answer. Got home around 4 when they were coming back up the hill, the one guy said never again, should have never been out there...DAH.. open water all around, what gave it away!
Later
Chaz
P.S. Now a coating of snow on the bay this morning, someone will try it.