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We are lucky enough to also have Capt. Shaun Kennedy from Irish Knots Sportfishing. He will talk about Walleye fishing.
Capt Bob will present at 11AM and Capt Shaun will present at Noon.
These are two top notch highly respected captains. Everyone who attends their seminars should feel confident in bringing more fish to the net.
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March 11th
Go to the events page and there is a posting with a flyer that has all of the information.
Hope to see you there.
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We now have a minimum of thirty tables that will be loaded with stuff being sold including some charter captains who have recently gotten out of the business or looking to unload years of accumulation. The seminar will occur around 11AM with Bob Mallory on brown trout fishing. This is looking to be one of the "good ones" that people will be comparing others to in the future.
Looking forward to seeing many of you there.
See the events calendar for more information.
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See the LOU calendar for more information pertaining to this event. ELOSTA will be having its annual fishing flea market and seminars on March 11th from 9AM to 1PM at the Brewerton Fire Hall (just off of Route 81). Come get some great deals or call for a table and unload gear that you no longer use. Bob Mallory, who runs his charter boat "Persistence" and successfully fishes several tournaments each year will be presenting Brown Trout Fishing techniques and applications. We are in the process of securing a second seminar speaker for the event. There will be a $2 entry fee used to send kids to DEC Camp for anyone 16 or older.
There is a flyer on the LOU events calendar that has all of the information neatly organized.
For more information or to get a table please contact Bill Pingel at 315-515-8278.
We are lucky enough to also have Capt. Shaun Kennedy from Irish Knots Sportfishing. He will talk about Walleye fishing.
Capt Bob will present at 11AM and Capt Shaun will present at Noon.
These are two top notch highly respected captains. Everyone who attends their seminars should feel confident in bringing more fish to the net.
Bill informed me that there are over thirty tables that will be loaded with goodies.
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Thanks. It is quite an undertaking by the researchers of Cornell. In the end they would still be looking at the female DNA if they are using the mitochondrial DNA - even with males. Love the Maury comment.
In order to get bigger fish they would actually have to take time and effort to separate the sizes as they came into the hatchery and then try to only use three and four year olds to spawn to try to artificially direct genetic selection towards potentially bigger fish (more in the lake to try to get to maturity without being caught in the first 2-3 years). The super large fish in Michigan are older fish that have made it to maturity. With the cuts out there the pressure has moved to other fish species and allowed them to get to this size / age class. Their bait density / biomass is no different and maybe lower than ours on a cubic hectare basis.
In the end I think that they are happy with numbers / catch rate and not having to do more work with the shoestring budgets and manpower that they have available. They truly are doing a great job with the resources they have available. Most college kids would mess things up more than help with many of them having a hard time identifying a guppy. If any study, trying to figure out if selective breeding would make a difference, (which we all know that it should) was going to take place in any form, it would need to be driven by a grant with a university heading it and us charter captains would be more efficient at separating the species, gender, and size than any college students.
Another push would be for them to open another tube to a holding pond and any "smaller" males sent down the tubes or directly into the dumpster, rather than placed in the "male breeding tub". This would at least eliminate the jacks and the small two year olds without much effort.
It was nice seeing people interested in the future of the fishery able to get together again. It was also great that Scott, Tom , and Dan were willing to give their time to be there and answer questions and give us information.
Good luck this deer season.
Phil
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Thank you to all who came out and especially to the DEC staff who volunteered their time to share updates, information, and answer questions. It was a very informative event.
Phil
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Hope to see familiar and new faces. The Hatchery looks great and it should be a fun and informative night.
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On October 19th at 7PM there will be an end of the year meeting for anyone interested in attending at the Salmon River Fish Hatchery. DEC personnel will be there to go through the egg take, hatchery updates, general health / observations of the fish handled at the hatchery. There will likely be other information presented on the bait fish trawls and any research being done or proposed for the fishery. Please spread the word and try to attend to become more informed about what is going on and to be a part of or listen to meaningful discussions / conversations.
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Thank you to all of the members who were able/ chose to spend the afternoon together. It was nice seeing many old faces / friends and some new members as well. Congratulations to all of you who entered fish, placed, and who won the raffles. Good luck on the water.
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Remember to register. See you in a week.
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A clarification for the derby. The newsletter had the minimum lake trout incorrect. Lake trout must be a minimum of 5lbs to weigh in. The same as the other trout species. There is no minimum length requirement. That was from when the slot limit kept Lakers out of the 25-30" length from being kept.
Looking forward to seeing old and new faces at this year's picnic and derby.
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If there is a small craft warning posted the derby is off, but the picnic etc... Are still on.
The location is at the Mexico VFW.
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All current, prior and to those looking to become members of ELOSTA;
Please mark your calendars for August 6th to attend the annual picnic / derby at the Mexico VFW. This is a great opportunity to spend time with family and friends surrounded by fellow outdoorsmen who love the fishery we have. The picnic starts at 12 but the chicken dinners will start to be served at 2pm. There are two options for the picnic - chicken or hamburgers/ hotdogs. $22 for chicken dinner $17 for burgers and dogs plus salads, drinks, etc... Kids 12 and under without chicken are $8 but if they want chicken the price is the same as an adult at $22.
The derby is $15 per angler, everyone on the boat must be entered, everyone entered must be a member or get a membership at the picnic, and everyone entered must attend the picnic and purchase a meal. Weigh in closes at 1:30pm sharp. Minimum weights for each category of trout and salmon will be in the newsletter. It has been 5 lbs for trout and 20lbs for salmon in the past. If a small craft warning is posted the derby is off, but everything else is still on.
This is meant to be a fun friend / family derby.
This is the organization's main fundraiser for the year. There will also be raffles and t-shirts to purchase.
Please call Jerry Loughnot at 315-699-0112. Be sure to give him your name(s), meal choices, and whether or not anyone is fishing the derby and if anyone will be signing up for a membership at the picnic.
Thank you in advance and great fishing. See you soon.
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It has not - call him at 413-441-4068. Awesome boat and is in the water.
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It was a great meeting and we are grateful for Steve and Chris giving us their time.
A brief summary is as follows:
Hatchery is fully staffed and still working on water issues from the wells.
Wild young of the year salmon sampling is the lowest in 10-15 yrs.
Cormorant control is back.
Lampreys being seen on fish are form the 2020 year class that was not treated.
The BIG ONE: --- The new lake management is that it is a wild fishery and will be supplemented by the hatchery system which changes a lot of decisions and puts more chance into the process.
Alewife survey is up to 200 sample sites.
Lake Ontario Advisory Panel will remain as a permanent tool for decision making.
Other discussions were about cormorant hazing, stocking techniques, Net Pen projects, Coho study, Atlantic salmon study, ........
There will be a lot more details in the ELOSTA newsletter - 3 pages.
Phil
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Hoping to see many old and new faces. Lots of good, clean, fat, healthy alewives this weekend - looking forward to the preliminary trawl data.
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Ditto on how well taken care of that boat is. Very nice boat and well kept.
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All are invited to the meeting tonight at the Mexico VFW (meetings are open to the public). The meeting will start at 7PM and will be inside the main building. There will be updates about the lake fishery counsel made up of lake and tributary anglers, hopefully some word on cormorant control, stocking, fishing reports, etc...
Hope to see you there.
Phil
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Looking forward to seeing a lot of familiar and new faces this weekend.
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ELOSTA will have a raffle or 50/50 as well. Donations can always be made to help send kids to DEC camp through ELOSTA too. Looking forward to the event.
Thanks
Phil
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It will be at the Mexico VFW on April 9th morning until early afternoon. Entry fee will be a nominal $2 per person. There is an indoor and outdoor venue (if needed) for vendors. Tables are available for a fee (depending on the number of tables, size of the table, and possibly an outside versus inside rate). Exact times, food, and other information will be added as it gets firmed up. We already have a few vendors looking to unload a lot of stuff. There are plenty of tables still available.
Please call Bill Pingel to get a table at 315-515-8278.
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Next Wednesday, June 16th, ELOSTA (Eastern Lake Ontario Trout and Salmon Association) will be having a public meeting at the Mexico VFW on Route 13 at 7:00PM. All members and non-members are welcome and encouraged to attend. Topics will range from the bait fish situation, cormorants, fishing thus far, picnic / derby discussion for August, and other pertinent information as well as any techniques and or tips people are willing to share. Looking forward to seeing you there.
Phil
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Remember that doors open at 9AM, but from what Bill says - there will be a lot of merchandise to browse and buy.
See you there.