Thanks guys, I appreciate it. Is that speed (2-2 1/4) all lures or spoons/ I do run my spoons at that speed and been running flies and plugs 3-5. Also, flasher and dodgers I have gotten told different ways to run them, is running them solo off the weight effective, or someone feeding me bs? Sorry to so sound so dumb,I have been trolling for a couple years, but haveing the equipment is only half the requirement to be successful!! i definatly stopped running and buying every lure someone on here says is a killer!! My purple nurple has always been my luck .. Thanks again, and if any of you ever need assistance, I will scrub youre boat, clean youre gear, wax youre truck, lol, I dont care I will do it for a chance to tag along and learn something.