BAZOOKAJOE

Flat line sticks. Run spoons 3 ft down 60 ft back. A #5 split shot (or 2) will drop a spoons down into the strike zone. Short cores will work 1 or 2 might be better than a 3.

In-fisherman or field and stream had an article about it. They recommended running down riggers with sliders and 3-7 color cores.

Watch out for big boulders! I hit one several years ago off chimney bluffs in 10 ft of water. It must have been 7 ft tall! Lifted the front of the boat out of the water and stopped our forward momentum.

I run floating stick baits until the fish move out to a depth of 20 ft or more. My first few trips I'm running in the 10-12 ft depth. After they move out I use mostly spoons on short cores and the down riggers.

I know it will fit 200 ft of 45 lbs copper with 150 yds of power pro backing.

Any black ice mags?

Keep it tight and cut off the end by about 8-10 ft every so often and you won't have any problems.

Les, do you have any trouble with copper and the swivels going thru the level wind??? I believe the opening is smaller than on the seagate, and the retrieve is slightly less on the sealine 57, but not by much .

Im asking because ive been looking at both for copper and other trolling applications.

And anybody have suggestions for where to look for best price?

Same retrieve rate for a sg57 or a seagate 50.... 42.9 per turn. 48.2 on a seagate 60.

I have one. Never used it. Was included in a bunch of used stuff I bought.

Same here - no snubber. Set drags loose so they click on a turn or big wave. I use 30lb Trilene Big Game mono. Never had a problem. Been running them this way for years

Yup

You can get the blue Daiwa sealine 57 on sale for $109 through cabelas around Father's Day. (They did it for Christmas too) Usually with free shipping too. I bought 2 last year and 2 the year before. They are the same reel as a seagate but with a line counter. Fast retrieve and tournament drag. I would back it with 30 lbs power pro.

I store my boat 1/4 - 1/2 tank and top it off with fresh the day of shakedown.

I run sea foam in every tank and mix it in my gas can for the mower/snow blower.

Nah, get a 500 on a Tekota 800 with a line counter. The line counter is not accurate...but if you let it all out you will probably end up with a number of 580 or something like that. Divide that by 5. That number is close to how many feet out for every 100 feet. Or get a Daiwa seagate 60 and mark it every 50 or 100 with black spray paint.

I would head to Oswego. Lots of charters and the fishing is consistent for most of the year. It's the fastest drop off in the lake. So you don't have to go terribly far out. The harbor and launch is easy to use. June is the most inconsistent month. But if you could book the last week i think you might be in for some great fishing! I live near Sodus and its hit or miss there. Brown trout and steelhead fishing can be good in June. But if you want to fish deeper water you have to travel farther out. And the launches in Sodus are a pia. A lot of bass fisherman.

Big Jon sells a seat post mount. I bought one a few years ago. I would suggest you put a couple ratchet straps on the front of the mast. To add some support and keep it from pulling out of the seat post. Which has happened to me before.

I had a 27lb king almost spool me a couple seasons ago. It was hooked in the dorsal fin. Before I could get the boat turned, I was down to 100' of backing! I have had a couple hooked in the top of the head that were hard to slow down too. I would rather have a little bit of insurance than get spooled.

Were you using black sponge?!

All mine are backed with 150 yds. But I agree...if you hook one funny or in the motor. I did have it happen once. As I saw bare spool I tightened down on him and the fish broke the leader. I didn't care. He was not stopping for anything. And we were in the middle of a armada of boats in Oswego.

Those GLT rods aren't bad. A little stiff for my taste. I like a whippey light to medium rod for all applications. Ugly stik 8' 3" for riggers, 10" star fires for dipseys and 9" ugly sticks for copper.

Those diamond eye swivels work good for me. Give them a try!

I own both and the seagate is faster and has a better drag.

Wow! Great discussion and a LOT of overthinking going on. Hope spring gets here soon!

Lol!! True!!!

I don't trust Albright knots. Although I never have used the glue on them. But I do agree that those spro swivels everybody uses aren't the best for a leader connection. I started using mustad size 8 88 lbs diamond eye swivels and they are more gentle on your leader. From my experience braid slips through a Scotty release. I use 5 ft of 30 lbs big game between my braid and copper.

If I had a diamond plate deck I would buy the expensive floro leader material just for the extra abrasion resistance.

The 32 lbs is easy to work with as well.