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5 minutes ago, Sk8man said:
As with much of fishing there are a lot of assumptions being made in lieu of being able to directly observe or interview the fish. The video above is instructive in a lot of ways. It illustrates the fact that going with the current kills the action of some if not most lures. It also reinforces the fact that when in such a state increasing speed can accentuate lure action in a down current. Underwater currents are complex in operation and not always easy to figure out from the boat as they can go in multiple directions at once too and we make a lot of inferences or assumptions about what they are doing to our tackle. The Fishhawk assists in making a judgement about where the lure is running and the speed of the downrigger weight through the water basically and this can be compared with the GPS speed of the boat over bottom so an assumption can be made about strength and direction of underwater current. The desired speed of trolling is often taken for granted as being the effective speed that we think the lure operates say 2.2 mph, but that speed may affect a given spoon or stick in radically different ways under the water in the various currents where it isn't actually visible to us and also back from the weight because of the distance placed there (e.g. long setback and bow in line etc.). All the while we are assuming the lure is operating at whatever speed we had desired without any real evidence that it is actually running at that particular speed that the weight is OR that is running optimally action-wise. The video approach can help clear that last thing up but it isn't practical to do with every lure either.
I use a Fishhawk X4D along with my depth finder as tools in trying to figure things out, but I also recognize the limitations in totally relying on any of them in figuring things out down there. People often want to simplify situations by limiting their input of information and this is one of those circumstances. A lot of time can be spent fixating on these electronic devices and forgetting to fish comprehensively and that is more effort paying attention to detail, monitoring the wind and water conditions, observing objects on the water and their path, observing changes in equipment, and many other variables that can be just as important as the data from the devices.
Bottom line: all these devices no matter how sophisticated are merely "tools" with which to make "assumptions"or "estimations"and some are more reliable than others but none of them should be treated as "gospel" either.
As always, well said Les. Sometimes we get caught up in all the gadgets we have on board and forget about the basics we learned when we didn't have all the bells and whistles but still caught lots of fish.
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I believe Al gets $800 / week, Little Salmon Mexico Point launch is 3 miles to the east. Can also launch across the creek at Catfish Creek Camps .
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Let's not forget when purchasing a bigger glass boat, now you need to get a bigger heavier truck to pull it.
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11 hours ago, Tony K said:
Oh yeah and congratulations on the new home Pete !!
Thanks Tony, it's on Sunset Bay Road, beautiful home hopefully I can get to stay there for weeks on end someday soon.
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On 3/22/2021 at 8:28 PM, Browntroutchaser99 said:
Hi everyone, I just joined Lake Ontario United. I’ve been fishing this lake for about 3 years now. I drive up here 5 hours every free day off that I can get from work!! Here are a few pictures of a couple of brown trout that my buddy and I caught this past Saturday!! The large one which I’m holding weighed in at just over 18 lbs!!! It was caught on an orange Michigan Stinger Sodus Point Buckeye spoon!!
You've done well! that's my biggest brown to date 18 lbs. after 30 years of fishing Lake Ontario. Good going guys and welcome to Lake Ontario United, lots of great people with the same interest. Very helpful and knowledgeable gang. Hope this is a great year for everyone!!!
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On 3/31/2021 at 11:20 AM, Tony K said:
Hey Pete I believe we will be meeting soon. I purchased the Hammers place and lease from Al.
OK so you bought Billy Lewis's Trailer correct? Look forward to meeting you..............Pete
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Great to hear a family building lures together and putting out a great product, good luck with your enterprise and hope the "kids" knock it out the park someday. I would order some of your spoons if I didn't have 5,000 or so in my collection, very cool story. No Reel Cool story (and lures).............PD
ps. Mikey P I know you have that many too!!
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9 minutes ago, rswanson330 said:
Let me know if you're going to be fishing the week of 4/18-25.
The camp doesn't (or didn't two years ago) have internet,
So I won't be posting much.
But if you're going to be on the water that week I can let you know how we're making out.
Purple sticks were the trick two years ago, seeded watermelon spoons prior to that, brown sticks prior to that.
And there were a couple years where we couldn't buy a fish.We've run into kings this early...
But only a couple times.
They were always partial to a black, white and pink spoon for whatever reason.
I'll post what I can, I may have read that they have piped internet into the camps now.
OK sounds good, 2018 we absolutely had the best spring king year ever, they were through out the water column in 50-90 fow and wacked whatever presentation we put out, good luck to you and hope this year is better than last..........Pete
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Just curious, because I've stayed across the creek at Camp Crystal for the past 25 years until buying a home on Sunset Bay Rd. I know Wally quite well.
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On 3/25/2021 at 8:57 AM, rswanson330 said:
18#...
The biggest I've ever caught (in about five trips over 10 years) was just under 8.
Nice fish.
We're headed up again 4/18 for a week out of Catfish Creek.You released that fish, right?
I'm looking for a wall-hanger!Where at Catfish Creek are you staying?
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On 9/14/2020 at 6:13 PM, eman89so said:
Do you like the singles better than the trebs
I do, especially on the dipsy rods. Much better hook-up rate, Greg makes the best, hell everything he makes is top of the line!!
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I'll take lot 1
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Yes there is dock space provided.
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Book no,w while there are good fishing weeks available.
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Call Al 1-518-369-3673
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I'll take lot 5 Pay pal?
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Available this spring call Al @ 1-518-369-3673
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Thank-you Les , I sent you a PM as well.
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Harvey, I sent you a message, I have a neighbor in Oswego (actually Scriba) that has 300 # of lead pellets he is willing to part with, free of charge if you want it................Pete
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Beautiful hull...Clean as a whistle, good luck with your sale!!!
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Anything from Greg is Top Notch !!!
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Do you come to the Oswego area?
Why a speed and temp unit is critical
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