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    One way or another

    in Finger Lakes Discussion

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    I saw 3 boats coming from the lake yesterday on my way back from work. Can't say they were fishing, but they weren't looking like they were Winterized and they all had outboards. Saw a couple robins on the side of the road as well.

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    Waste Fishing Line

    in Finger Lakes Discussion

    Posted

    Personally, I would have to agree with Sk8man on that. I believe we are all understanding the risk and the repercussion of dumping mono or other into the water. Back in the 80's and even the 90's we all have caught trout and salmon with "six pack" plastic stuck to them. And Im sure we all have seen it, and we all have been disgusted by it, so I wouldnt jump to a conclusion that it was from fishing and Les points out a very plausible Explanation for it. As fisherman, and most of us, if not all of us conservationists, I doubt as thouh you would be able to point the blame on us. At least not the majority of us. There may well be other reasons why mono or other gets caught on fish or birds. Fisherman are well aware the dangers in "dumping" line. Not a practice we engage in. A Poll On the topic might shed some light... I seriously doubt it related to fishing.

    Sutton Substitutes???

    in Finger Lakes Discussion

    Posted · Edited by Great Lakes Lure Maker

    So here are some pics of the GL#35. Kausch called it a 12, we changed the # to 35 some years ago. The GL 44 and 35 are as close to a Sutton as you can get. They can be formed in 2 different dies, one is the original form and the second is for todays higher speed trolling. 

     

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    These are Kausch # 7 and # 12. The 12 is what we now call #35. Notice the nut and bolt. When we purchased Kausch, all their fixed hooks were assembled with a nut and bolt and there were tons of extra nut and bolts, which is how we took on the idea.

     

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    Another view of the 12. Without it's logo, you would not know the difference between Sutton or Kausch. As far as I knew, the nut and bolt were the "give away" 

     

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    These are Great Lakes made #12's. ( now #35) They are brass plated in chrome. (These came after we sold all the silver ones that came with the purchase of Kausch.) I only have a few of the originals left. Maybe 50? 

     

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    When we retired the original dies, this became our version. Made from Stainless.  Notice the difference in how the hook fits the lure. We have tried several different ways of attaching the hook. 

     

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    Here is a closer look at the hook "Saddle". We have since changed that as well. 

     

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    These are the Kausch spoons that we can produce today. With the exception of the 2 on the right and the dodgers. (second in from the left is a copy of the pine valley "Laker" spoon) All new dies have been made to produce them. We are in the process of bringing one at a time back by having new dies made up. We will no longer use the originals as the are collectibles and have been shelved. The next will be the Silver Soldier in the medium size. Not sure which one we will do after that. Have to see what others think.

     

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    With the exception of the Silver Soldier, these are all the lures Kausch made. We had a different display for the SS. We can produce any of those lures in the future. Just havent decided which to do next. 

     

    As you can see, with the exception of a different metal, our lures are quite similar to Sutton's and are as close to a Sutton as you can get nowadays. We have different forming dies that can form them in the original form or in new forming dies which allow them to be run at todays higher trolling speeds. When people order, I ask them what speeds they prefer to run, so I can send the form they will be most likely to want. 

     

    We have made every effort to keep the lures as close to original as we can, as well as providing lures that can be used in today's fishing methods and speeds. 

     

    Comments and suggestions on how we can continue to do that are always welcome.

     

    Thank you,

    Jason

    Sutton Substitutes???

    in Finger Lakes Discussion

    Posted

    Now that i'm viewing it on my computer and not my phone, I can see a nut and bolt on the both of them.  Also see the nut and bolt on Les's examples too. Interesting, Curious where the nut and bolt came from. I'm guessing someone re hooked them, as Les said. Our # 35 is an almost exact copy, except for the fact it is now made from .015 stainless steel. I will try and find some of the older ones we made that were plated and post some pics. They are almost exactly the same. The only difference I was ever aware of was nut and bolt instead of a rivet. (until we switched to stainless)

    Sutton Substitutes???

    in Finger Lakes Discussion

    Posted

    I see. You didn't mention its logo was sutton. We make a 35. Exact copy of it. Many years of changes involved, but still quite similar. The nut and bolt is confusing. Where is Les! He might shed some light on this. As far as i know, we are the only company using them.

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    Sutton Substitutes???

    in Finger Lakes Discussion

    Posted · Edited by Great Lakes Lure Maker

    Also, Kausch called it a different# and we didn't# them until we had the dies to logo them. I'm not a Sutton expert, but I don't believe they used nuts and bolts. We did and still do.

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    Sutton Substitutes???

    in Finger Lakes Discussion

    Posted

    I don'T think its a Sutton. Back in the 80's we made similar lures. Made from brass and silver plated. As the years went on we switched to chrome plating, then eliminated plating all together. After that, we went from .010-.012 to .015 stainless. Very possible its an older GL 35. I will post some pics Tuesday as I have to work outside the shop tomorrow.

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    Sutton Substitutes???

    in Finger Lakes Discussion

    Posted

    Hey guys while we're on the topic, anyone know the number of the spoon in the right? I have it next to an 88 for reference. attachicon.gifImageUploadedByLake Ontario United1425860436.236789.jpg

    Also this is a 33 and I catch a lot of fish on it. I've never seen another or heard anyone mention them. I was wondering if anyone had some for sale?attachicon.gifImageUploadedByLake Ontario United1425860522.727179.jpg

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    Hard to tell from the pic. Help me out here. What is the metal like. Looks to me, because of the bolt and nut, it is a GL # 35 with a fixed hook. I will post an example tomorrow. We still make them.

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    Sutton Substitutes???

    in Finger Lakes Discussion

    Posted · Edited by Great Lakes Lure Maker

    Great lakes lure co makes #44 and #35 spoons. Very similar to Sutton. There will be more to come in the near future, we are now producing West Rivers and others will follow. Our n44 is a different bend however if you specify 44 we will form it in the typical 44 form.

    Jason

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    st clair angler kills nice fish

    in Musky, Tiger Musky & Pike (ESOX)

    Posted

    did i catch the article right hes on social assistance? If i remember the video he was on a pretty decent boat wonder if payments for it came from social assistance. If it wasn't his boat or if was paid off before the welfare started than i take back this statement. it just seems that before you start taking aid you should really need it and a boat is a sacrificial luxury not a necessity.

    Agreed. I had the same thoughts. If I remember the video of him, he made some other comments that were disturbing also.

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    My first & second attempt at powder paint on lures

    in Open Lake Discussion

    Posted

    Maybe try more pressure. Also, I found when I get the needle at just the right spray I lock it down in that position and don't use my finger to adjust spray just air. Try not painting all the color at once, several passes to build it up. I hope this helps as I know how frustrating it can be to get it right.

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    My first & second attempt at powder paint on lures

    in Open Lake Discussion

    Posted · Edited by Great Lakes Lure Maker

    I tried the air brush from t.j.'s and its nothing but a PITA. Can't get creative at all. Too much over spray. I'll give you mine cheap

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    When using an airbrush paint viscosity and air pressure can be a pain to dial it in. I just bought one last summer and had quite a time getting used to it. I'm still learning. Some paints like high pressure 30-50 psi, some as low as 5-10 psi. Lots and lots of practice to get good at it. I was frustrated with mine at first, now I enjoy using it.

    I always practice on cardboard first before painting any product, to get the paint and air right and to lose my shakey hands. There are some good tutorial's on YouTube that might help.

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