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You also really need to be a people person, regardless of how big your boat is it can get pretty small with people on board. 

1 hour ago, Yankee Troller said:

Fat Nancy's has a 9' light action rod we use for Spring Brown Trout. I believe it's a Riverside or Steamside brand? They are a lot of fun with the Chinook Divers 1/2 size for Brown Trout. If I wasn't fishing green clients I'd probably use that rod more for my Chinook Divers. Ask for Dave Falato if you call over there. Tell him I sent ya. He'll know what rod I'm talking about.

Thank you.

Going to run these koakanee out if a small boat, how light of rod can I use and still make it sorta fun to reel one in? Also any specific rod recs would be great. Wa think the 8’3” ugly stick Thanks

Just to update Garmin’s response on P66 and UHD, they are shown as not compatible because you lose the speed feature, it will not track. Of no consequence to me, but wanted to share the response.

10 hours ago, Yankee Troller said:

 

I install Airmar P66 & B60 on a lot of UHD models and haven't had an issue. You wont find them in transducer selectin menu by their names, and the unit will not recognize the transducer upon set-up. You have to go in and select 50/200khz manually.

I have one on the way. Thanks

4 minutes ago, Yankee Troller said:

 

Be careful with the Garmin dual beam 77/200 as it will interfere with your Fish Hawk which works on 70khz.

Thanks, the one I was looking at is 50/200 . I will try the p66 though thanks

10 minutes ago, 13owhunter said:

 

P66 seems like the best bet as you get 600 watts and a 45 degree beam.  See below for a side by side of transducers with a wide beam from garmins site. (im sure you are looking at the same thing) Not sure whether the extra 100 watts or 5 degree beam width matters much but the P66 has it all.  

 

 

	freq	power	beam width	pins	retail	UHD Sv Compatible per Garmin
GT20	77/200	500w	45/15	4	$99	Yes w/adapter cable
GT21	50/200	600w	40/10	8	$149	Yes w/adapter cable
GT41	50/200	600w	40/10	12	$199	Yes
Garmin Dual Beam	77/200	500w	45/15	8	$79	Yes w/adapter cable
Airmar P66	50/200	600w	45/11	8	$159	no??

Yes only issue is Garmin says the p66 isn’t compatible with UHD and newer models. I am going to call and see what the issues would be.

Not sure on the difference between the p66 vs standard garmin dual 50/200 besides p66 is 600 vs 500 watts. Garmin says the UHD models are not compatible with P66, going to call and get clarity as my ice unit is a 73cv UHD and would save money to put the transducer on that vs a new additional finder. Also for $80 might worth trying the dual frequency garmin transducer,  not sure how much detail you would need for the wide cone purposes.

9 minutes ago, 13owhunter said:

Garmins website says the P66 isnt compatible with the a UHD 93sv but i see that there are 8 pin to 12 pin adapters widely available.  I also see that airmar makes a 6 pin transducer for garmin as well.  I can get a 6 pin P66 from a buddy.  Is there anyway to make that work?

 

Thanks again!

I am will using the P66 on a different brand next to the garmin. I am not sure if garmin are compatible. They are really quick to respond to questions.

On 6/29/2023 at 9:12 AM, Yankee Troller said:

 

Great idea. Make sure the GT56 is the lowest transducer on the transom so when using the side imaging the other transducers don't get in the way. Other than having to go into the settings for transducer installation and choose what transducer you're running it will work.

With the new longer shaft garmin kraken likely to not mount a transom transducer for the garmin and the gt56 on the trolling motor for SI. The the P66 off the back. I believe with the new longer shaft brushless from minnkota this is probably an option as well for those is smaller boats, 

Garmin just announced force trolling motors with much longer shafts and gr-56 built in, about time!

I plan on doing that, my gt56 runs at pretty different frequencies so I don’t think the p66 at 50/200 will have an issue. I am adding the furuno 588 next to 93sv.

that being said, I was on Lake Huron and the gt56 was fine and picked up cannon balls at 100 feet laker fishing.

3 hours ago, wrestlecoach said:

YT what transducer would you recommend?

I am sure he will answer but do know many upgrade their helix to airmar p60 for better deep water performances.

The 93sv with GT56 is on clearance since the uhd2 is launching. So great deals out there , picked up one from big fish encounters.

Was curious if fish have hit during this process. Back in the day I recall  jplugs getting bit before line went into the release. Work be no fun to have finger wrapped in 30lb line when a king hits:-)

How heavy are the magnum slide divers in total weight? Is it noticeable ?

1 hour ago, Earl28 said:

If you fish alone and need longer leads consider slide divers. Also use a small spro swivels that will past threw your rod and reel. With this setup you can run long meat rigs and land your fish by yourself. Good luck

Thanks, that makes since. I would think a simple wire knot to the spro would work. Also looking at the SW diver approach with it clipping off like a board does. I appreciate the help.

11 hours ago, GAMBLER said:

There are days that short leader lengths work well and days that long leader lengths work.  It all depends on the mood of the fish.  If they are aggressive, a short leader length will not matter as much.  

I hear that, I often wonder if we tend to overthink it:-) I am using 7’ rods for inside diver, so hopefully they are aggressive:)

Curious on this. I fish alone much if the time. I can use slide divers, but curious if a 6 foot leader is really detrimental to success.

Was curious if anyone is running 2 chinook divers off one side. Inside wire, outside shallow? What size , settings? Appreciate it.

Setting up first wire divers. Picked up TDR 7’ MD rod for inside wire divers. It has the aluminum oxide rings I believe. I have twili tips to add if better with 19 strand. Also do the wire knot work with 19 strand? Appreciate it the insight.

On 6/8/2023 at 4:58 PM, Gill-T said:

Or save your money and tie the wire line knot to your terminal swivel 

Is there a link to this knot? Curious on how to do it.

Sounds like there might be something new from fishhawk? If you can only get one, is the new version of i troll the way to go? Fish hawk? Or wait for new announcement from fishhawk?

I always ran spoons shorter furthest 30-35 feet and plugs longer. I had seen  videos back in the 80’s of spoons action too far from the ball and it lacked. Similar with a dodger they seemed to kick more with shorter leads. At the end of the day switch up until it works.

Anyone use the Dubro release? Seems similar to the blacks.