rusty1034

Nice looking equipment. If I hadn’t just bought the same thing from this site earlier this year, I’d be all over them !

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In case the batteries run out.


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Black Lake Report - Dec 18 - No one on it.

Might change soon as it was below zero overnight.


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SPOILER ALERT - Mystery solved !

I took the boat to a shop that services Mercs. The owner told me he suspected a faulty torque hub, possible incorrect prop.

Got a call a few days later saying the torque hub was fine, and he think the prop was not the issue, so he called Mercury. One thing they told him was to check the EXHAUST SLEEVE.

He checked the sleeve, and found that it was missing. That allowed the exhaust to escape in front of the prop, causing the “prop slippage”/ cavitation issue.

I took it for a test drive. Now it pops up on plane almost immediately, and tops out at about 43 mph at 5500 rpms.

Thanks for all the suggestions and comments.

In the end I think nymphO is the winner with the diagnosis of exhaust blow by.

Rusty

Rusty

That's the combo I use. I also try and use mag primers. 209 sometimes needs them for ignition.


Rusty

Sold pending.


Rusty

Thank you Ski-dooz. I tried checking it while on the trailer in the driveway. There wasn’t enough clearance to get the outboard all the way down. If I had to guess, I’m about a # 9. I’ll address that concern when I leave it with the marina tomorrow.

Rusty


Rusty

Glad to see there are some quality deer in NY. Let em go, so they can grow !


Rusty

For sale- two unopened, new in box Cannon Retro ease downrigger weight retrievers.

$25, shipped US address only.

Rusty

Hi folks,

I have a Cannon Mag 10 that has been on a shelf for a couple of years. Looking to get rid of it. It has the old style power cable, and no down rigger cable. Has a single rear rod holder, and the retro ease retriever system. I have hooked it to a 12v power supply, and it functions, just not sure if it’s all there. Anyway, $50 and it’s yours. Pick up only, Watertown area.

Thanks for looking -Rusty

Rusty

Wow, so many potential causes. Not at all like diagnosing a flat tire or burned out bulb.

Thanks


Rusty

Thank you all. Especially to Born to Fish for offering to let me try his prop.

I talked to a outboard mechanic. He said check the hub, if that’s not it, then needs a different prop.

I was able to got a WOT reading- 5960 rpms. From what I can tell, the recommended rpm form,the motor is 5000-5800 rpms.




Rusty

These are the pix of the safe John sent me. Looks pretty nice, at a great price.




Rusty

No wonder you caught more fish than I did !

The screen on the inside wall of the trench looked much better than in the open water. By then I had run out of time.

Beats working !




Rusty

I was out Monday morning. Temps were definitely weird due to the winds from the week before. Landed to lakers and lost a king on 450 copper, broke the knot at the swivel! Ugh. I didn’t check the trench. Started south of the finger and trolled southerly towards the plant. 44-48 degrees down 110 once we found it in 140-150 fow.


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I was out on the finger for a couple of hours Tuesday. Temp was 73 @ 100. Once I got out a little deeper I found some mid 50s deep. Temp seemed to jump around, 48 in one spot, a few min later, 63 at the same depth.

Anyway, got a 26 lb king on a green/silver/black stinger. Sorry, I’m no good with the names after they come out of the package.

That was the only hit I had, probably because I tangled two dips eyes and a copper on a turn, and didn’t know it until it was time to head in.

Still beats working, still learning the fishery in that area. Lots of lakers from what I’m understanding.

The fleas weren’t bad, how ever, they seem to have grown. They look like miniature shrimp now. I could see the eyes, and their little spiny legs. Not as many, and much easier to clear from the lines.

I hope to get out one day next week if the winds cooperate.

Good luck,out there !


Rusty

I have a fishmaster 210 , came with the same motor and prop, and had the exact same issue.
I did a lot of homework and ended up with a 4 blade stainless power tech, different pitch .
 expensive prop but the difference is night and day.
 
 

Rusty, is your prop stainless or aluminum? A stainless prop will give you better performance. I have yamaha's on mine so I am no help on proper prop size and pitch.

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My boat too has the Mercury 150 4s as the main motor. I have already installed a smartcraft tachometer to adjust rpm for trolling and I agree, it works very well. I ran this setup on my Lund in lieu of a kicker due to cost, space, weight on transom, and because I knew I would be sliding up in boat size.

I am considering the kicker because I plan on keeping the Starcraft for a long time and I wonder if keeping 10-15 yrs worth of trolling hours off the main motor would be worth it. Combine that with the redundant safety of having an auxiliary engine and that is where I am at.

I have 2 large batteries in the bow that must weigh 60lbs each for the electric trolling motor. Do you run an electric motor on yours and also have batteries up front?

Thanks for the feedback.

Brian





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Howdy all,

I have a Starcraft Fishmaster 196 pushed by a Mercury 150 four stroke. Both are 2012 editions.

I believe the boat is experiencing excessive prop slippage during acceleration, and am looking for some input on the issue.

I don’t have numbers as to rpms and mph, but after the boat gets on plane, the rpms seem to be too high. When the boat gets to about 20-25 mph, I can pull the throttle back, and the prop seems to “catch”. By that I mean the rpms will drop suddenly, but the boat continues at the same speed.

On the motor currently is a 15” x 17p propeller. It’s in good shape.

I bought the boat used, and with it came an extra propeller, it’s a 14.5”x 19p. It’s in pretty bad shape, and I’m guessing it’s the prop that came on the boat when it was new.

1) Are there other folks out there with the same boat/motor configuration ? If so, what prop are you running, and do you experience excessive prop slippage ?

2) Can you tell by the information I’ve given if the current prop is correct for the boat.

3) Could the issue be caused by something other than the prop- clutch perhaps. If so, what the diagnosis to determine clutch slippage ?

Thanks in advance for you help

Rusty

Rusty

I have a ‘12 196. I love the boat, it’s the second 196 I’ve had. The first one was an ‘06 with a 115 Mercury 4 stroke. I loved that set up, trolled down to 1.8 with a small bag, planted nicely at about 15 mph, and topped out in the low 30s.

The ‘12 has a 150 mercury 4 stroke and a merc 9.9 four stroke. The kicker works flawlessly. The issue with this set up is that I think the 150 plus the kicker makes the boat rather stern heavy causing steering issues at low speed. I fill the livewell with water to add some ballast in the bow.

The 150 has sort of adjustment feature on the tach that allows the motor to be operated in a trolling mode. It allows for rpm adjustments of 50 (rpms) to control speed. I’ve used that feature in the past, and it works really well.

So, in my experience in your situation, the kicker works great, but I’m not sure it’s needed because of the weight and option of trolling with the main.

Good luck fellow 196 owner-

Rusty


Rusty

on my fishmaster 196.... I'll never fish without autopilot again 

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Rusty

That’s about right. I launched there two days ago. No more wet feet ! Now if I could just figure out how to catch the fish [emoji30]


Rusty

Ditto- temp between 80-90. Pretty sharp break.


Rusty