chinook35

ok trout man has weights  going to get some from him should i get  16 pounders or `12  torpedos have stx mag  10  electric max weight 20 pds going  fish lake ontario

Hi,
Would you buy a boat in winter without having a tryout on the water

Where are you planning on fishing and how deep?
I agree with either torpedo's or Shark types weights, two members on here make these type, Troutman and Bikini bottom, check the classified ads
The currents on Lake O can cause havoc with pancake weights

Just remember that "Agreed Value" coverage protects just your boat if something bad happens but it's "Liability" coverage that protects
everything else that you own from the lawyers.
 
Make sure you are getting the right coverage not just the lowest price.

 
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This fight might not be over The emperor Cuomo just set up a commission to determine where ( at the moment ) solar energy sites can be located , without the input or consent of townships the newest site is located between Watertown and Henderson. 2000 acres of solar panels in a residential area. The commission is titled “ Site commission for RENEWABLE energy locations “ I would guess that means wind too. I’ll get the article and post ASAP He just took the towns and county’s out of the equation. His statement was “ the state , not the towns , determine where renewable energy sites will be located


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Another Buffalo News story this morning on the short operating life span of the wind mills and the loss of school and property taxes to rebuild them with tax incentives. The plastic fiber glass blades have a short life span. Newer installed blades are larger and less hazard to wild life such as birds. Newer nacelles, gear boxes and generator blades, will be more efficient with technology improvements twenty years better. The present towers will be used to support the new equipment. Anyway that is what the selling promoters claim.

Once the turn color, they are no longer "fresh".  Once they start staging, most are done eating and living off of fat reserves.   They do not fight nearly as hard.  

Nothing beats the sense of accomplishment in my opinion. Managing the chaos all by yourself is where it's at. Just be careful man and consider a ripcord and/or jacket. You never know when that rogue wave or boat or fish reach might cause you to lose your balance. Don't mean to be a downer.

Sean

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Can we start by torching dsr? I looked the other day and it’s $85 to fish there now 

I wasn’t able to fish as often as I wanted , and as often as I usually do. But the times I made it out to my favorite haunts I found the fishing much slower than in past years. I usually was able to scrounge one or two. Had one skunk. How about the rest of you ? Was it me or was the fishing off this year ? I normally fish the East end of the lake from Mexico Pt to Henderson It appears the best fishing was west of Oz

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Depth and distance are two different things. Depth is the distance in a downward direction from a given point. Distance can refer to any number of directions from the originating point. Chinook 35 summed it up very well in his comment. By the way, the shape of the weight matters significantly as he notes in his example. The pancake weights probably have the least accuracy depth-wise because of their shape. They tend to go quite a ways off to the side - especially at higher speeds. The more hydrodynamically the shape (less resistance in the water) the truer the weight tracks through the water which should translate to less blow-back and truer depth display on the depth finder. Similarly the heavier the weight the more it holds the wire in a downward position with shape being held constant. Again the resistance in the water is the critical variable.

You hit another of my pet peeves Pancake weights. Years ago I bought 2 13 # pancakes trying to win the blowback battle. Suddenly , I’m getting terrible tangles. What gives ? Made the discovery that pancakes take on a life of their own in cross currents. I fished with them for a few trips and they gathered dust in my cellar for many years. I finally dumped , I mean sold them last year. Hope the new owner has a good vocabulary He’ll need it. Lol

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The blowback on anything less than 12 lbs is A LOT!  I had a smart troll and measured it for 8 lb, 10 lb and 12 lb weights.
Even with 12 lb you normally had to have about 20% more cable out to get to the desired depth. 10 lb was ridiculous ... 8 lb was
impossible to get deep.
 
As others point out, you should use the heaviest your downrigger and gunwale can support ... and hopefully that is at least 12 lbs.

I believe my FF is accurate af when it shows fish (depth) on the screen and what depth my rigger balls are running, 
 
FH speed & temp is probably correct, i dont think its depth measurement is accurate.
 
10# pancakes

Wrong. There are several charts for angle versus depth with amount of cable out. You can also figure it yourself Measure the angle of your cable and how deep you want to fish. The equation will tell you how much cable you need out to reach that depth
 
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRFi2e-KTz7wyU19YvAWW_MxXvulBJUWm9xAg&s
 
 
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My advice would be use the heaviest weight your riggers will support.

 

as far as blow back there is no set calculations to account for the angle. If you can’t see your weight on your graph you will need a probe at the weight to get an accurate reading. A fishhawk td is $125 and a cheap way to get accurate depth and temp readings. You can also send it down a dipsey line or copper to get readings on those lines as well.

Wrong. There are several charts for angle versus depth with amount of cable out. You can also figure it yourself Measure the angle of your cable and how deep you want to fish. The equation will tell you how much cable you need out to reach that depth

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRFi2e-KTz7wyU19YvAWW_MxXvulBJUWm9xAg&s

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Cant say i have ever heard that

Apparently it’s only a requirement if the marine radio is turned on .

If you choose to turn it off the requirement doesn’t count. Lol.

The purpose of the FCC regulation was to relieve congestion on VHF channel 16, the distress, safety and calling frequency. FCC regulations require boaters having VHF radios to maintain a watch on either VHF channel 9 or channel 16, whenever the radio is turned on and not communicating with another station.

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On ‎8‎/‎22‎/‎2020 at 9:48 PM, bandrus1 said:

Ahh ok. I dont fish with my radio on. Definitely #1 rule is never pass a stranded boat.

If you have a marine radio aboard , you are required by law , to maintain a watch on channel 16 at all times  Fishing or not

You guys need to come down to the central basin of Erie. Some pucker moments for sure! These were out by the Canadian line...

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Might be time to pull lines and head in. Lol🤪

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I have the Cannon 5st’s and when they come up, they come up and stop fast. To the point where there is a momentary slack and snap action above the weight whether in the water or not. I actually had the fish hawk safety cable come apart and lossy my weight. I put the snubbers on them and viola, smooth when they stop. I recommend them for the high speed cannons that don’t have a slow down feature on the retrieve.


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where is the best place to get sh thief  snubbers and what is the length of thr snubber

I think the snubbers will mainly help in rough seas— it snapped when a wave flung the shark up and the line went a little slack and then big force when it came back down.  I need to bring the weight about a foot out of the water to hook my release, hence why it’s susceptible to wave action.  I’ve experimented with some other methods such as using retro ease and the Scotty releases hooked on the mainline above the ball, but settled on just bringing the ball out of the water a foot or so.  

I bought "Fishing Hot Spot" maps recently. Mine doesn't have TD overlays on the maps.