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Got it done last night, a lot of little guys on their feet yesterday. Came in with a doe at last shooting light.
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Nite,nite nice buck!
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This thread has been a great read thank you for all contributions. I shot a decent buck on Halloween evening and since than it has been great reading about all your sits and takes on the season.The deer I shot had been eating well it had the largest body of any deer I have ever killed in 40 years of deer hunting. It was shot in Genesee county and it was following and lightly bumping does the evening I killed it.
Good luck with the rest of your season and I will try to contribute when I get back out in the woods!
Congratulations! He is a hog for sure!
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Yes i agree, some in heat for sure. i have had my best luck seeing mature deer on their feet in day light from oct 25 - 30th. The bucks with age class on them have gone through the rut multiple times and so they are aware that some will go into heat early. Look at the bucs harvested in previous posts around those dates, and a buddy got that big one i passed the 28th,( proly go 135 as a 8, opps i may have mis juged em) wich is the date i killed my buck last year.As those first racked bucks are runing around crazy the matures are taking there time and mythodicaly scent checking the does. That the time frame on my perticular property as observed over the lst 15 yrs, like stated above every block of land is little difrent based on age class stucture and numbers of deer. Headed to camp at noon down in steuben county, place been sitin dormant for 3 weeks so should be hot! Then back up to 8a to get onto my best spots that have yet to be tampered with, hopefully, lol. Ben holding out so that i stiill have my buck tag for this 5 day hunt at camp, got alot of time into the land with plots, stand ect to not give it a good go with a buck tag still in my pocket.wil be off the grid for a little bit, so good luck to all.
Spot on with your assessment. If you have mature bucks on your property they like to corral the doe and keep small bucks out, the doe like it because they get harassed a lot less, when sparks fly between two big boys thats when it gets fun. Hunting the transition zones now and down wind of a good bedding area can produce big. Each buck is an individual but catching him making a mistake is key to killing him. Start mid day hunting your transition spots it will pay off. A doe is in estrus for 48 hours, the big boys get the early ones, when a big boy is looking for his next hot doe he may not have to travel too far, bad for us, this rain today and the shortening of the daylight (weather related) will put a few more into heat. These mini peaks in the rut we observe are due to the reduction of available light, (photoperiodism ) so think out of the box, pinch points, down wind sides of bedding areas or that little spot that the old buck likes to hole up with a doe. Also my opinion on calls, use only as a last ditch effort. No blind calling ! Move if you don't have action.
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I heard some guys were fishing south on west side near yacht club. I wonder any one was successful? Trying again this afternoon....
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Did you try deep water down the middle? Anything suspended out over deep water?
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My buddy took this one last night - southern tier (Elmira area). IMG_1478118575.042991.jpg
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That's a beauty! That's close to our hunting area, tons of character, love that dagger on right main beam
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Another photo frost n sunrise in the alfalfa
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Thanks guys!
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Lucky enough to be in the right spot this morning.
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That's fantastic! Great shooting! Awesome that you can make memories with your daughter like that!
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IMG_1477575943.162937.jpg. Guess on weight ?
225, looks like a 4 1/2 yr old or better, nice gut n small sway in back, shoulders n back end r big! May not score high but that shouldn't matter with a buck like him. Nice deer!
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How much does this service typically run?
Up to the tracker and hunter, legally in NY you have to be a licensed guide to charge a fee.
Usually we put in at least four hours, or at least determined if the deer was still alive or just needed more time. Found a gut shot buck for a guy once after 9 hours it was still alive, we backed out gave it three more hours and walked in and found him dead. If you think its a gut shot give em 12 hours you run the yote risk but you are way more likely to bump him and never find him til who knows when.
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Two calls for tracking bucks today, had to refer them to another tracker, my 14 yr old girl can't do it any more.
Also hearing about more car/ deer accidents , officially out of October lull?? -
Gut shot deer become very thirsty and often die in a pond. Close exam may show arrow hole.
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thank you for your advice
No problem, pm me if you ever want to discuss tracking, oh a side note my sister has had three different Rotweilers that got their "TD" and TDX tracking dog and tracking dog expert, it was absolutely amazing how easily those dogs could find me, even with rubber boots, de scented and thru streams and whatever.. Only trying trouble was dry conditions or over pavement. The dogs are smelling the disturbed dirt or broken grass, amazing.. Guys deer know when you go into their area for days after. Scent control is great but its kinda like you can smell a smoker or someone with strong perfume was previously in an area reducing that effect is the best we can do.
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Basically taught her as a pup to " find it" she started out with shed antlers then the first blood trail she was hooked and could care less about some stupid bone. I have a few friends that would have an easy track and we would go on that. One main indicator for her to know we were tracking was her collar. Dragging hides, leaving fake trails ect have their usefulness but either your dog will figure it out quickly or not. She loved small game especially squirrels, once a squirrel came across the track right in front of her she totally ignored it, she had her collar on she was after a deer. She also got a treat of a piece of the heart for reward. Truly we worked as a team finding the deer, recognizing what she was smelling, how she pulled and the small details of the woods like the exact size of the deer track, freshness of blood, crows, hawks, direction of wind, air checking vs. ground checking, confirming blood, arrow placement and finding it post hit.
I've got many stories of tracking, mainly we try to assess the situation and decide how long to wait or to track at all. One thing she did that amazed guys was she marked "peed" if coyotes were on the track in front of us.
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i have little hot dogs im gona train mine i've been told they do a hreat job
The Dachshund is a great tracker that works very hard, a little dog that is close to the blood may have a tendency to ground check instead of air checking. My dog learned early that a short cut is to smell the dead deer( air check) and go straight to it, but if it's not the wounded deer then back to the last blood...
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My dog is a mix breed, some kind of hound, first the family member, second a excellent tracker. Got her as a rescue
That's exactly what my dog is, a rescue and some kinda hound mix.. She was a good tracker but always wanted the freshest deer track. Track and confirm blood, always trusted her but sometimes she took me on crazy chases after live deer.
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Being part pf Deer Search I monitor our call in system for hunters looking for help. Usually the 4th or so of November the calls really start coming in, sit tight not long now.
WNY Deer search 716.648.4355
Finger Lakes DS 585.935.5220
both have internet pages.
I have had my tracking license for years now, my dog is turning 15 next month( now outta service) we tracked on average 25 times a year for the last ten years. What you do is great for the sport and very needed. I haven't the heart to get a puppy yet but I'm leaning towards a Walker/ red bone that wants to chase deer instead of coons.
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The week before stuff really starts happening...Its officially the " October Lull"
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Those didn't come out of Cayuga, it was Cayuta I've tried lots of different small spoons for these eyes and they prefer the small sticks (2"-3") bottom bouncer should work, speed was key last night they wanted it at 2.5 and that was as slow as I could go with the wind. The water was very murky.
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Nice bulls, ole!! Well edited you havve a talent!
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Pics in Australia
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Trolled a local lake tonight 4-6:30, beautiful sunset and nice moon rising. Caught two eyes one 28" the other 25" happy to have some tasty filets. Two and four color cores with small rapalas in 18' of water. 60 temp
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Rollie, wouldn't want to give up a guys " hot spot" or tell anyone your secret lure with a guy fishing like you did this year must feel like you were at your "Apex" lol!!
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