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  1. The skinny silvery thing was about 3.5" long. The itty bitty ones were spit up by a bass I caught. They were about a half-inch long. I think the bigger one might be a small sawbelly? These were from Keuka.
  2. I've tried fishing live minnows for bass recently, and the bass seem to swallow the minnows headfirst, resulting in some (not all) gut hooked fish. I normally C&R so wondering if I can find a different hook to reduce gut hooking. I've tried extra wide gap worm hooks, and octopus circle with offset point hooks, and still get a mix of gut and lip hooked fish. Looking at octopus/circle hooks there are several features that can be combined in different ways on different hooks: 1) reverse offset eye or straight eye -- I understand offset is better if you want to snell the hook to your leader. Would it reduce gut hooking with the octopus hooks if I tied direct to the eye instead? Or better to just use straight eye hooks? 2) inline or offset point - does the offset point make it more likely to gut hook the fish even with a circle hook? Seems like it would. 3) circle point vs. straight point.. Circle is designed to reduce deep hooking. 4) size.. I've been using 3/0 and 4/0 hooks after starting with #2 and missing hooksets. Anyone have a recommendation for a good hook for nose hooking minnows and not gut hooking the fish? (Other than don't use live bait).. Of course my local sports store has a very limited selection of hooks right now anyway... Thanks fellas..
  3. I've become successful jigging lakers on Keuka, with a learning curve of 8+ years. I started using the 1-1.5 oz jigs with 4-6" plastics that work well on Cayuga and Seneca, blind jigging in the AM, and might have caught 2-3 fish in a week. I got an old Hummingbird fishfinder, which helped a little, then upgraded my fish finder to a Garmin Echo 501c, and things got a lot better. Better resolution and sensitivity. Now I could see the jig and the fish. Be sure to use the 77 KHz transducer frequency as it goes deeper. You should be able to see individual fish on bottom in 120 FOW, and anywhere in between. You should also be able to see your jig as it falls and is reeled back up. A couple of other tweaks I made for Keuka that may be appropriate for Skaneatles also.. 1) I use a light action spinning outfit with 10 lb Sufix 835 braid which is very limp and I believe helps the jig fall easier, and has no coils/memory so you have max sensitivity. I use 8 lb flourocarbon as the leader, about 4 feet long. I find it easier to cast ahead of the boat when drifting with the spinning rod vs. the baitcaster ( I did use for a couple of years). 2) I have scaled down the jigs and baits to Northland unpainted 3/4 and 1 oz ball jigs with smaller plastics, like a 3" long curly tail or paddle tail grub. Brown in the spring and white in summer. Keuka lakers are overwhelmingly 18-20" size class, I think this is why the smaller baits work better. I've found there is a 'magic hour' in the AM when I do best jigging, around 7-8 AM.. You could do six in an hour and then nothing all day after that, though may get plenty of follows.. My basic technique is probably like most other jiggers.. fall to bottom on a tight line, let it sit on bottom for count of ten, doink in on bottom about ten times, raise it up slowly, and then reel up to surface, and repeat. Lately I had better results reeling quite slowly, just fast enough to get the paddle tail wiggling good. May-June a moderately quick retreive works. I rarely blind jig now, I will wait till I mark a fish or three under the boat, then drop the jig. If there is wind, I'll mark fish to get the depth dialed in then motor back upwind and drift over that same stretch, casting ahead of the boat so the jig hits a little before I get over it. Last tip - May into June is far better jigging than July-August. Fish bite much better and are not so deep - more like 45-85 FOW, vs. 85-130 FOW in summer.
  4. I've recently run into multiple obvious scams in the 'boats for sale - by owner' section on Craigslist recently. Typically its a nice looking fishing boat at a very nice price. The 'seller' has recently been widowed or divorced and moved out of state, and the boat will be delivered via eBay motors or some such.. The first question you should ask when inquiring about a used boat is 'where is it and when can I come look at it'. That will weed out this type of scam right away.
  5. Probably not. The boat I saw had a hard-top cabin which is not so common on Keuka.
  6. Do the rainbows and salmon range into the east arm of the lake? Or do you need to go down into the main stem closer to H'sport?
  7. The dog clutch in my Alpha One is slipping a bit when engaging in the forward direction. It sometimes engages right away (one clunk), sometimes it takes two or three clunks before engaging. Just started doing it this year (few weeks ago). It has not disengaged or slipped at all at higher revs/running speed however. This is the advice I seek: Is this a serious problem needing immediate attention or can it wait till July/August? (will be a long wait for service now anyway) When these fail is it gradual or all at once? Will continuing to operate this way damage anything other than the dog clutch? Is there an adjustment to the shifter cable I can try or is this best left to a pro? Thanks.
  8. Wasn't you I saw then but thank you for the report. I did well jigging on bottom in 75-105 FOW this past week. Autopsied a few fish and found nothing identifiable.
  9. Someone was up and down the East arm of Keuka most of the day Saturday running a planer board, dipsey, riggers, you name it. Running the planer boards on the inside toward shore. Don't see many people running planer boards, we don't have brown trout to speak of, so I was thinking planer boards for bass? Then this morning, I was jigging off a point in 85 FOW and there was a big splash near shore, very close to a boat lift. I tossed my jig over, and a decent laker nailed it on the sink. So maybe they were running the boards in close for lake trout? If the skipper of that boat is reading, how did you make out? Must have been out there 8-10 hours.
  10. Keuka water temp on the east arm is 48-50 degrees per my fishfinder earlier today. You can always check the Keuka Lake Association website to get a temp reading from the water intake near Penn Yan, also. Sorry don't know about the State Park launch. I would assume so, but can't say for sure. I pretty sure the Penn Yan launch is open given all the bass boats running around this weekend.
  11. Datacenters generate lots of heat and need cooling. Maybe lake water will flow there again before too long.
  12. Just to echo a few of the above comments.. I went out yesterday, saw lots of marks and had plenty of follows, but only could get 4 to bite.. Just seemed like they were not much interested. Turned off just like that. And I had never had a double digit day in 8 years of trying until this past weekend. Perhaps since they are trout, they are selective in what they eat at any given time and you have to 'match the hatch' like you do stream fishing for really spectacular catches. Especially on Keuka with sawbellies in decline, they might be eating perch fry, crawfish, emerging mayfly nymps, mysis shrimp, or (maybe?) the recently stocked cisco. I have had the most laker hits after dropping slowly to bottom, letting the jig rest for a count of ten, and then giving it little lifts like (I imagine) a crawfish or sculpin would look like that had been scared out of a hidey hole on bottom. A smaller share on the retrieve.. (three quick turns of the crank, rest, repeat), and a very few on the drop (and missed half of those hits). I am also using a smaller lighter jig than previous (3/8 oz).. I would not in Seneca or Cayuga however, or if fishing deeper than 50-70 feet.
  13. Had a blast jigging for lakers on Keuka Lake this past weekend.. Boated about three dozen in three days. Nearly all the fish were caught in 50-65 FOW, near bottom, though one chased the jig up and smacked it at a depth of 20 feet. All were the typical size for Keuka: 18-24 inches. Don't know what they were eating as they were all released. First day I found a bunch of fish in one location, next couple of days they were more scattered and had to try several spots, getting a few each place. This is all on the east arm. Saw a few boats trolling and a few flipping docks for bass.. Anyone else do anything?
  14. I find the wind on Keuka (east arm anyway) tends to blow up or down the lake more than you would expect, even though the weather forecast reports NW or SW winds. With a NW wind I would stick to the west shore as you suggested, if you are looking for less chop/drift, but don't be surprised if it is blowing down the lake. That's not all bad though. With the right wind, it can work out so you drift by the docks are just the right speed to fish them without using the trolling motor a lot.
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