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The only one that worked for us was the chartreuse / black ladder back ! Had to remove the front treble hook or it would tangle with the rear hook ! I was glad to sell the lot to a good home for a very good price for me ! We stick with  J-Plugs ! When they work they work well !

Many in our hunt club use an O/U for field use ! I use my 12 gauge for ducks and geese but others may differ ! If money is an issue a Remington 870 can do it all at a low price !

A good varmit is a dead varmit ! Nice shooting !

Try with a red SpinDoctor with a red Howie'S Peanut Fly !

October for us off Port Dalhousie !

" can handle aluminum rigs EASILY by myself " ! A major point which I forgot to mention ! I fish solo a lot and this can be a major factor for me ! Re. fuel consumption I have rescued 2 glass boats who had run out of fuel ! You did not mention the deterioration of fiberglass esp. if the boat had been in salt water ! A great topic thanks for you detail response !

16 hours ago, bulletbob said:

Been going back and forth for decades with the same problem.. A well designed 17 foot fiberglass boat { I had an aquasport 175 Osprey], will handle heavy seas better than most 20 foot aluminum boats.. However they also weigh twice as much... It all depends on where you are going, and what you have to tow with... Some guys have trucks that can tow a 25 foot glass boat with ease, other guys try and tow with compact SUV's or pickups that  will tow a small aluminum  boat, but have a hard time with even a 17 foot glass boat... I had a  18 foot Starcraft Islander, and old one, and miss it terribly.. It was light for the  size and space it offered,  yet took  rough water remarkably well... Overall, don't expect an aluminum "compromise" boat to handle rough conditions  close to as well as the same size glass boat...   I now own an older  aluminum17 Grumman CC.. Very heavily built, and designed for salt water use... I bought it because I tend to believe what I read... It  is mediocre at best, no where near as good as a comparable glass boat despite its very wide beam, and not as good as that old Islander... Personally, I would  stay with a glass boat if you can deal with the weight....... bob

What about fuel consumption ? Glass as compared to aluminum plus resale value and we all have to pick our days no mater what boat we buy ?

Les can be more ! Ie. tangles can ruin your A.M. You would have to be very good at it and if you were you would not be asking the question IMO !

12 hours ago, scobar said:

10/11/2005 a captain and passenger drowned in devils hole

Thanks for the post ! Where there others ? We got as far as the Queenston / Lewiston bridge when a swirl tilted the port stern to about 1 cm. of free board and that was enough for us to back off ! IMO once it starts getting scared it stops being fun ! been there too many times and do not want any others ! Again no fish is worth risking your safety for !

Lot of detail here ! To begin KIS ! Mono is out ; start with braid and get good at it then if you must add or shift to wire ! you have a lot of expert opinions here by experienced and very helpful fishermen ; in the end as I have posted before do what works for you !

Great post but how big is your boat ?

Well put sk8man [ Tuffishooker M.D. full time 55 years !]

The best fishing is the "drop off " ! goes from ~ 60 fow to ~120 fow ! I have only trolled never tried jigging ; spoons are #1 then dodger fly or cut bait ! Can get a little crowded at times with US & Canadian fishermen ! Lake trout are the #1 catch ; there is plenty of information on this site ! 

On 12/28/2021 at 8:38 AM, Chuck Smth said:

 Try bass fishing, it makes salmon trolling look pretty darned affordable, 

Need more information to make any comparison ? #1 start with size of boat ; seen many salmon boats 28 ft. twin screws V8 engines #2 electric downriggers maybe 4 #3 sonar can go to 2 grand #4 FishHawk to a grand #5 terminal tackle [ spoons , dodgers , flies , plugs , body baits open ended and changes every year ] etc. Not sure how " bass fishing " compares ! You tell me ? [ can add VHF radio ,radar +++ ] 

Ditto on too many variables to make firm conclusions now ! Merry Christmas !

For us after 34 years on Lake Ontario ; color rules , action #2 ! Color can vary every day and during the day !

" you shouldn,t think about the money " ! Maybe but do not buy yourself a ticket to the " poor house " ! [ seen it more than once ] 1

No fish is worth risking your safety for !

Again weather rules in a small boat ! Take a weather course if available ; get the forecast before going out and come in if the weather changes ! I still run my 16 ft. Starcraft on Lake Ontario since 1985 and too late to change now ! 

If you had to pick ONE gun what would it be ?

Real time Excaliber cross bow ; buck taken butcher made a mess of the sausage ! [ We are only allowed archery in area 88 Niagara ]

Toyota Camry ! ? On the same permit or a different one ! The only road kill I have got with my Toyota Tundra is a recent skunk so far ! [ No doubt about that one  } Just missed a nice buck coming back from Lake Erie walleye fishing in my Ford van pulling a boat years ago !

Do you need a permit for the Toyota Tacoma ?

How did we get on this topic ? What am I missing ?

ps. salmon fishing ain't cheap so bring money !