FishingFool34

sharks are pending at the moment.

2 hours ago, Uncle Bubba said:

Did the shark weights sell?

 

Prices lowered

Pending on the sharks right now.

I forgot to take pics of the rods but here is a link to them and the model # is BD-C-802Ma

https://www.fishusa.com/Okuma-Blue-Diamond-Trolling-Rods-a-Series

We were up there from Thurs-Mon, best fishing was out in front of Wilson for us. 180-240 fow, down 40-75ft. LOTS of small fish around, we stopped running spoons on boards by the 2nd day. Just a pain to keep reeling in the 10 color and 300 copper with 12" shakers on them. The big fish all came on meat or FF down deeper (65-75ft), biggest of the weekend was just shy of 20lbs with several in the mid-teens.

No shipping on the rods or sharks. Pickup in Rome, NY or Mexico, NY on the weekends. Will split shipping costs with buyer on any other items.

2 - brand new never used 15lb shark down rigger weights painted black - $150 SOLD

2- used 8ft M Okuma blue diamond downriggers rods $75 SOLD

1- track mounted tool holder $20 SOLD

10- mixed flashers most used a couple new $60

1- Hook lot (25) 4/0 Gamakatsu Octopus hooks (12) size 2 2x strong EWG treble hooks

$20

1- USB charging cable for Minnkota ipilot Link remote SOLD

On 5/27/2022 at 11:17 AM, troutman10 said:

 

I know you say to stay with brand exclusitivity but how would I know to connect a Minnkota tm to a garmin fishfinder? 

You wouldn't connect them, the features you get by connecting them are brand specific. If you had a garmin sonar and minnkota TM you would just use the ipilot remote or foot pedal to control everything. The ipilot LINK version which allows the TM to connect to the sonar will only work with Humminbird sonar unit. 

34 minutes ago, Pennfish said:

Even works in cloudy water

How far back can you run stuff and still be able to see it on the camera?

It will likely be a tight fit with 300' of WS on a 47 sealine, I had 300' of WS on a 45 size Okuma reel and ended up buying a 55 size okuma for that setup instead. As I wasn't comfortable with the amount of backing I had room for on the 45 size reel (don't forget you need a good amount of heavy leader on the front of the setup as well). I think the Daiwa 47s are slightly bigger than an Okuma 45 but I would say rule of thumb once you get to 300'+ your looking at a 55 size or similar reel. 10 colors of lead would be the most I would run on a 45 class reel. You could consider going with 30lb braid for backing, that combined with the slightly larger spool size on a 47 may let you comfortably fit that setup.

A Minnkota with I-pilot is the class standard I would say as well. You will def want atleast a 24v, and atleast a 60" shaft. As others have said more power (aka 36v) and a longer shaft (72"+) will only help you in rougher conditions. You could consider matching your electronics to your TM too, Humminbird to Minnkota, Lowrance to Motorguide or Garmin to Garmin, as there additional features you get from matched units. I had a i-pilot Link connected to a Helix on my old boat and was able to have my tm follow contour lines on the map, travel to a specific selected spot on the map, program, save and view routes all on the sonar unit which was nice but prolly not 100% needed to fish. All the big 3 tm have similar main features, like auto-pilot and spotlock/anchor mode which are both most haves imo. Having the bow mount with autopilot and a kicker is a great combo, the bow mount AP does the steering while the kicker does the pushing. Personally my choice would be a Minnkota Terrova or Ulterra (Auto-deploy and stow the tm from the remote).

I don't know of anyone using them on kickers, but I know several captains that use them on their main motors which they then connect to their kickers via a EZ steer bar. Seemed to work well, my only complaint would be they are on the loud side. If you're looking for a standalone kicker AP, I would recommend the Garmin Reactor 40.

2 hours ago, Hunter315 said:

What speed do you guys usually run for spring browns?  I’m new to this thanks for any help. 

2.2-2.8 down speed

9 hours ago, Frogger said:

Thanks Thork, but I have steel cable.  Looking to put braid on. 

Part #166 it looks like

https://www.fish307.com/cannon-optimum-optimum-ts-downrigger-parts/

what year/make/model is this setup for?

47 minutes ago, lineman49 said:

  Any info. on where we would find the browns  ?  It will be our first time up out of Wilson, Olcott, or oak orchard.   Wondering what depth to start looking or did we miss the bite?   Thanks in advance!  Maybe looking for lakers too.

If I was fishing that far west this time of year, I would be looking for salmon. The few times I have fished out of Wilson/Olcott in May we would run a little west of Wilson until you see the line of boats and just got in line, did very well on salmon. 

Standard Horizon GX1400G

Brown fishing has been hit or miss for us lately in Mexico. With the right wind the fishing is good, with the wrong wind the fishing is not so good. Seems like on the wrong wind days I see a good number of boats out significantly deeper. I'm assuming they were experiencing similar struggles with browns and switched gears and went out deep looking for lakers. I have some friends coming to visit soon and they want to come out and fish and I'd really like to get them on some fish. If you were in Mexico struggling to find the browns what would you do to change it up and go look for lakers. I know there's not really much structure around here so what are you looking for when it comes to finding lakers? Is it a certain depth this time of year or a temp? 

8 minutes ago, Pair of Jacks said:

FF34--yep we have a large rubber landing net and practice all the same TTPs for stripers except we use rubberize fishing gloves to hold the fish along side the boat...please post orPM info/photo of your plastic clamping fish grips tied to a rope solution.

 

Respectfully

 

PoJ

Just one of these tied to a rope that's tied to a cleat, Grab the fish by the mouth and tow them along side the boat once they start kicking just release the jaws. They are like $10 on amazon, easier than holding the fish along the side of the boat imo. I also use the same method to bleed out the few fish I do keep.

9 hours ago, Pair of Jacks said:

FF34…thanks for great insights.  Here is a follow up question…landing/boating the fish:  what is the best technique for our safety and health of the fish?  We will likely catch and release 90% of our fish.

Rubber coated net, minimal handling of the fish, back in the water ASAP and I'll go as far as towing the fish along side the boat for a minute or two to let it recover. I use the plastic clamping fish grips tied to a rope to tow them. I've had pretty good luck releasing that way. I release the majority of my fish as well. 

price?

On 4/30/2022 at 12:56 AM, Pair of Jacks said:

First is there a rule of thumb on setting planer board distance? I will like have two Yellowbird inline boards per side plus two downriggers on the stern.  Second, how do I determine how much line to let out past the planerboards and downriggers?  I will be running spoons, Rapalas, Cordell red fins, and  Thunder stick jr.  Some deep divers others not so much.

 

Thank you all for your wisdom and insights.

 

PoJ

I have always just eye-balled it as far as distances go. One thing I usually do is have my deeper running lures on the inside board and shallower ones on the outside board. In theory your shallower outside lure should be able to pass over top of your deeper inside lure without snagging that line. Obviously with a fish on thats not always the case, or if you're running similar baits. In that case I will reel the inside board in closer to the boat and have whoever is on the rod for the outside board keep the rod high and reel in slowly to let the fish and board get more behind the boat before bringing it in. 

20 hours ago, Shakemsam said:

I have the 93 and find that the maps are fine for LO. Not that detailed but they are fine. The biggest issue is the ducer that is packaged with it. As packaged, the 93sv is really geared toward structure fishing not open water trolling. 

I agree 100% with this, which is why I paired my 93 with an airmar B60 thru-hull for 2D sonar and a Garmin GT54 transom mount for the side/down scan. 

17 hours ago, shoncebl said:

Does the Garmin 93sv on sale for $699 have the map of Lake Ontario preloaded or do you to buy a chip? Thanks for any info because I called Cabelas and they do not know and Garmin website has no info.

Garmin 93sv has pre-loaded Lake-vu maps on it. I have one and the Lake O map is pretty good imo.

20 hours ago, Zinger11 said:

I have 12 cold water reels that I wasn't impressed with when I first got them than I changed them over to the fiber drags and couldn't be Happer with them now

Same here, something about a plastic drag washer and some concave washer orientation (There's a write up on it, on this site someplace). Once those issues were taken care of I haven't had any problems since. You would be fine with convectors as well. I run convectors on all of my Brown Trout setups without issue.

Looking at the DSP ad, I don't think that is a copper setup fyi. My guess is that is a wire dipsey diver setup like the ones I linked above. I have never seen a copper setup with a twili tip (that's usually something reserved for wire dipsey diver setups), also they don't say how much "copper wire" is on the reel which is kind of an important thing to know. Checkout the clearh2otackle store on ebay or email them and they will pre-rig whatever you're looking for. 

https://www.ebay.com/sch/clearh2otackle/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_ipg=&_from=

Not hard to put your own setup together either, use the chart below to figure out the reel size and amount of backing you will need for the setup you're looking to make.