Fishtails

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    Quakertown, Pa
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    Sodus Point
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  1. Fishtails

    3 or 4 Downriggers

    10 guys will give you all different answers. How many riggers depends on your boat and how you fish. I had 4, went down to 3, and now normally run 2. I'd like more for Brown Trout, but 2 is all I need for salmon. With the clear water, fishing has changed. Getting some of your baits further away from the boat can be more productive for salmon once the sun comes up so most guys are down to 3 riggers max. If you fish browns much, they love riggers! Some guys still run 4-5 riggers with lots of success, but its really just a different style of bait presentation. Depends on how you like to fish. Its hard to deny that a rigger fish is much easier to reel in than a 600 copper fish.
  2. I feel the same Abe. 5 or 6 fish seems to be the magic number. I experienced a similar fate last time I fished Niagara. The 3 fish format The Niagara Pro Am has for the Am's is more of a derby format than a tournament. I'm not knocking it, I think it's good for plenty of guys and a great starter event. That format just isn't for me. I do however, like that each day is a separate event so you have the option to fish just one day. That's a really smart idea.
  3. Was great seeing you as well Mike ! I didn't see it either Mike. Couldn't even tell you who won. We were last to get in line at weigh in, only made it with maybe 5 minutes to spare. Once we knew we were not top 10 and wouldn't cash, weighing in was going to burn up valuable time so we bailed to gas up the boat and run back across the lake. Even so, the gas dock had closed and we almost had to stay the night. Luckily, two other boats were also stuck without gas and the marina got someone to open and pump gas for us.
  4. Its an invitational type of tournament Bob. The spring event is capped at 60 teams. The summer event is capped at 40. There is normally a waiting list. I actually don't know the exact number of teams this past Sat but 55 rings a bell. I could be off a few either way. Regardless it was either a full field or around 90%. We actually attributed their different "viewpoint" of competing in small boats at least in part to a couple of very successful captains on the north shore who regularly win and do so in aluminum boats. Canadians just seem to have a different mindset in that regard. It would be interesting to hear from a few at some point on the subject.
  5. I gotta say, some really good feedback guys ! On a side note, the past two weekends I was able to participate in the Oak Orchard Open in Point Breeze NY and The Tightlines King Of Kings in Toronto Canada. The OOO is an absolute blast!! We had so much fun. It's an incredibly enjoyable and challenging format. Very well run and one worth checking out! Tightlines is great, but a big $$ event on the north shore so only a half dozen or so of the approx. 55 team field is from the USA. I've fished it a few times now and one thing that really jumps out at me every time I fish it is the large number of SMALL boats that enter the Canadian events. As we all staged out in front of the harbor awaiting the shotgun start, I counted around 15 - 18 aluminum boats 18 to 20 ft and a few more smaller fiberglass rigs. Those guys are not intimidated one bit going up against the big boats in a one day six fish high dollar shootout. I wanted to snap pics but its no communication and my phone was off. A totally different mentality on the north shore and those little boats often times not only finish in the $$, but even win ! Not saying I think 3 guys PLUS OBSERVER should pile in a 20 ft Aluminum boat and fish a 20k tourney, but they not only do it in CA, they do it well!
  6. A thought for some of you guys that may want to check out what the bigger tournament fishing is really like. Three upcoming tournaments will be requiring observers. The Pro side teams in Oswego and Sodus Pro Ams and The A-Tom-Mik Invitational. You can get on a team as their observer and get a front row seat to truly see what it like, plus its the best way there is to learn from some of the best fishermen on the lake. I'll be fishing the Am division this year in the Pro Ams. Am's don't need observers, but two of my team members on this years team have been past observers of mine, so you just never know where being an observer will take you?
  7. That was a great response Frogger, exactly the kind of healthy feedback I think coordinators reading this post can digest for future events. Thanks for your input !!
  8. Fishtails

    Niagara pro am

    I missed it this year, but that situation Sunday was too bad. See you in Sodus Abe!
  9. Tournament fishing isn't for everyone, and I'd go as far as to say it's not for most. I hear you on your complaints and I also took in your issues with The Niagara Pro Am and their payout structure. We all have opinions, both good and bad on practically every subject. I asked what's the reason some of us don't fish tournaments so that we can have a healthy conversation mostly because I am genuinely interested. I don't necessarily agree with all of your opinions, but that's the thing about open discussions and opinions I'm not looking to change anyone's mind. The great thing is that there is something for everyone that has an interest. The LOC derby is perfect for kingpossible and tons of others. Choose your days with weather, low entry fee, fish any port, etc. The small one day events like King of the Oak in Point Breeze, The A-Tom-Mik Challenge, The Fairhaven Challenge, The Sandy Creek Shootout, The Little Salmon River Challenge, etc are perfect for those wanting to take a step up from the derby thing. Low entry (lets be honest, if $50-$100 is too steep, than derby fishing is for you), one day event, choose one in a port close to you, a chance to compete and add a new dimension to your fishing adventures and test your skills against other anglers. If mother nature wins, it's only $50-$100 and you can choose not to fish. Often times entry doesn't need to be paid until the day before the event. For the many who want to participate in a true tournament format and step up from the smaller shootouts there are the Pro Ams and Invitationals which from my expedience can be the most fun by far !! I personally think most committees do an extraordinary job and I have fished many events in the last ten years. Sometimes the wind blows. We fish a big lake. I agree they don't get it right every time in every event when it comes down to the wind issue, but I know they do their best with the info they have and there's a lot more to it than most of us know. .
  10. There are lots of options for you that fall under your requirements. You are describing more of a derby or shootout more than a tournament. They can be lots of fun.
  11. Great Job Penny, thanks for all your hard work and time that you put into this!! Sorry I missed it this year.
  12. Someone had asked about participation numbers and growth in the Am division. I don't have the Oswego numbers, but Sodus has a website with all that info. It wasn't updated last year though so no numbers for 2018. Sodus Pro Am Entries 2014 - 27 Pro Teams and 18 Am Teams (45) 2015 - 27 Pro Teams and 19 Am Teams (46) 2016 - 25 Pro Teams and 25 Am Teams (50) The Am side has shown steady growth. It would be awesome to see a larger field of Am teams than Pro teams this year!!
  13. Thanks for your input Chas! I am not sure about Oswego, but after reading the Sodus rules it would appear there is no longer a minimum boat size for the AM. The rules are on the website and can be found here.... http://www.sodusproam.com/
  14. That is a GREAT rule Matt. You guys running the Sodus Pro Am rock !!! I'm pretty sure I would have never thought of that.
  15. I think you make some valid points Mike. I just don't know how they'd address the captain licence issue differently? It seems no matter what, a certain group would be upset. The rule changes you speak of that were changing yearly were always at the insistence of the participants. Just as you don't like the captain's lic. rule, or someone doesn't like 9 fish, or 6 fish, etc, etc, etc. Everyone got tired of that, and in the end it didn't seem to make a difference in participation numbers so to their credit the east end Pro Am's have both been steady on their general rules the past several years. It's still important though to listen and adapt in order to stay relevant. I always though Ivan did such a great job with the spring King Of The Lake event in Canada. As far as # of entrants, I know Sodus had shown steady growth on the Am side up until last year when all the complications of the high water levels kept many away. Even so, the turnout was pretty fair. Oswego has struggled a bit more with Am numbers and it doesn't make sense with all the boats, facilities and location that town has. Growth should be so easy in that port compared to all others.