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My purpose for asking these questions is mostly to create a discussion that hopefully will evolve into finding the right questions to ask. It is not to create bureaucratic efforts to out smart each other from behind a screen. Good things were said here. The effect that the Canal has on Sandy , the canal water being very warm, The possibility of cooling the water supply. (I had never even thought of that beyond fantasy). The success of Canadian natural reproduction, ( What can we do to help that even more) My own new idea of possibly introducing sterile male lamprey thereby decreasing lamprey reproduction. These discussions often repeat old thoughts and ideas, but also new ones that may lead to new solutions. Right now in some universities there is research going on that is looking for answers to these questions and these threads that we create are probably gobbled up by AI units and made available. This helps researchers in finding ideas that may lead to solutions that are way beyond my pay grade. We all have ideas about what we want to happen and tickling our imagination and putting it in a thread adds to finding solutions.
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Just imagine, . There are laboratory introduced strains of sterile male mosquitos that out compete regular male mosquitos, Why not introduce sterile male lamprey that out compete the natural lamprey male? Or Introduce some cisco genes into alewives causing the alewive population to be carrying more thiamine. In other words, instead of trying to solve problems, removing problems, The technology required to do this , is probably at least partly available stored in bits and pieces in different laboratories. With a thorough AI assisted search a lot has become possible that we could not even dream about three years ago. Eliminating causes in always cheaper than forever controlling damage. If Gator had the right tools to play with this he would probably create 50 pound kings just because it's fun
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The amount of ice becomes less and less the higher upstream you go and as trees cover more of a canopy over the feeder creeks, they lower the water temperature, as some fall into those feeder creeks they will create currents, holes and water retention, which can change the character of the creek. Add to that a few deep dug swim holes and it may become more hospitable to natural reproduction. When you make the round holes a bit more square and round out the square pegs a bit they will fit better
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Left Frank's around 7.30 in the AM and set up in 45 feet of water, just to see what's there. The party started almost instantly with a bait ball that was several hundred feet long. I snagged 5 mooneyes on the spoons and they were all about the same size or bigger than the magnums. Moving farther out, real marks started filling the screen at around 85 feet until about 130 where they thinned out. On the surface there was this pattern of flat water lines between larger patches of fairly wavy water. Moving into one of those patches of water, the salmon started the party with a double both over 20 pounds and from there on, for almost 5 hours it was hit after hit with most well over 20 pounds, but only as long as we were in that specific patch, the edges of which were clearly marked by cross currents and temperature rises and falls. The lures of the day were Magnum Ice frog and Chicken wing each with gold colored backing. After having some pop off I set the releases on the blacks a bit tighter which solved that problem. Their jaws are getting harder so we had to set the hooks harder We boated and released 18 fish. The change has obviously started. The fish are darker and the jaws are looking different. The interesting thing for me was that there was only one obvious 2 year old 10 pounder, all the rest were big and there was not even one with lamprey marks. They say that only one in seven fish survives a lamprey attack and the lack of lamprey marks makes me think that there is a correlation between the the lack of lamprey marks and the fish being so plentiful this year. DEC please keep on doing your thing against the those snotty sucker eels. All in all a great day on the water with lots of laughter and joking around with my son who was very happy to be away for a day from a very demanding job.
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Would a tree planting project along the creek be feasible? Come to think of it.., I would volunteer my time to do some trudging through the mud and plant trees along the creek. Not only do the trees anchor the soil and provide shade, the leafs falling in the water provide the basic food for insects like may flies and such at the bottom of the food pyramid, so planting trees really does a lot more than just give shade. The more trees the more bugs for the fish to eat. Heck planting trees may even bring stream fishermen and lake fishermen together in a joint project. Schreckstoff chime in please.
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There is change in the air. New dietary advice is at 4 meals a month for salmon out of Lake Ontario. The clean water act has quietly done its thing for over fifty years. Maybe the time has come to start pushing for Creek rehabilitation along the southern shores of Lake Ontario. So we can come up to the same quality of creek management that exists on the northern shores of the lake. In the upper Irondequoit Creek there already is natural reproduction of brown trout ( this has been known to dedicated fly fisherman for a few years now). I would like to see a big beautiful Lake Ontario restoration bill so the improvement that has started can be continued, so we have something to give to our children. If any of you ever go to events where politicians are trying to promote themselves, ask them what they intent to do for the lake.
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Sandy yesterday afternoon
rolmops replied to HB2's topic in New York Fishing Reports - Lake Ontario (South Shore)
Usually east of Sandy in the 250 foot range toward Braddocks Bay is where you will catch up with them as that seems to be where a bunch of currents join up and in my experience , that is where they like to stage before going closer to the Genny. Going into September, the cohos and the steelies like that area as well. -
What is the foul odor at the mouth of oak orchard?
rolmops replied to RodBuster's topic in Open Lake Discussion
Some guys from Sandy? -
Seeking Feedback
rolmops replied to Chi-cong's topic in New York Fishing Reports - Lake Ontario (South Shore)
Maybe he forgot to take his ritalin..... -
Legacy Bald Eagle 8/7
rolmops replied to whaler1's topic in New York Fishing Reports - Lake Ontario (South Shore)
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Which tekota or coldwater would be the right size? Does it fit on a Penn 345? Thank you.


