bulletbob

 No one has a small Ob to sell??

 Not an old  clunky  one please  In my experience  the old  2 HP OMC  engines  are kind of cranky and crude .. Looking for something  a little more modern , lighter and   smoother operating ..
 Will consider any brand as long as the condition is good.. Prefer a 2 stroke due to weight considerations.. It will be used as  backup power/slow trolling motor on a 14 foot Grumman side console with a 28 HP main engine. Need to watch transom weight.
 Open to any  brand and will not argue a realistic price... bob 607-236-4024, or reply  here via PM...

 This is the type with the tank on the engine... Decent shape, good compression,  brand new water pump... Was running fine, and then today at the lake  it started acting up.. Cutting off, hard starting, runs ok for a while, then gets cranky etc.. I think its just crap in the carb, or perhaps the points have closed up.. I have had it for years and that all its ever needed.. i just don't need it anymore- going to get a  more powerful ,more up to date small engine...
  plastic choke knob broke off years ago, and there just a piece of wire now , but it works.. Lower unit, prop, pump, all solid as well... $60 takes it away  FIRM!...
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 sorry, Couldn't even give it away.. took it to the junk yard over the summer.

2 hours ago, Neo1945 said:

Thank you Bulletbob, you solved my problem.

 Glad  to help.. In this state guns and gun owners are despised, with an unreasonable hatred,, NY city dwellers  want NO guns allowed in this state, and we always elect governors that are more than happy to oblige..  Believe me they are working on plans like California  has where every round you buy is  monitored and you need a permit to simply purchase ammo.. When that day arrives, I'm out of here... bob

17 is plenty.. There are times when fishing will be uncomfortable even in a 25 footer  on the Finger lakes.. It all depends on  how you are fishing.. Trolling,  a 17 footer is  fine  usually.. Bass fishing run and gun style, you will get hammered some days.. Perch fishing,  Pike casting,jigging for lakers or bass, these lakes get rough, and even a good 17 will get roughed up.. however, not to the point of being unsafe IMHO..
 I have had  my very tough very stable old Grumman 14 out on Cayuga in howling winds, and NEVER felt "unsafe"...

 However that does NOT mean you can fish effectively.. These lakes , for "inland " lakes, are friggin' wind tunnels.. I lived 37 years in NJ and can say from experience  that the Atlantic Ocean and the large NY/NJ bays have a LOT more fishable days than we have in the finger lakes..

 It can get to the point where your 17 might  get bounced so bad you might not want to fish, but if you cannot fish in a 17, will it be a fun and productive day in a 21??? probably not... It all depends on how bad you need the fish i suppose... bob
 

  OP.. If you are using shiners, honestly why bother drop shotting??. Drop shotting works, and works well, but nothing will outfish live shiners for SMB...
 If I had a couple dozen live shiners, I would fish them  until they were gone, and only then would I  go  drop shotting.. Bait IS a pain in the ass, but its  usually more productive than  lures for finger lakes bass  For every  big bass I have caught on a lure on Cayuga/Seneca/Keuka/Skaneateles , I have caught five on live bait..... bob

 wow, LOTS of boat there for the money!

 It was almost dark, and I had to take my shoes and socks off..Thick black river mud, sucking at my ankles, freezing cold  water, current ripping at the boat..
  Finally was able to hook up the bow eye to the winch strap, had to tie a rope to the transom, and pull the boat against the hard current to where it was almost straight with the trailer, and try to start winching it up  with one hand while holding the  rope on back of the boat in that current with the other... I am 63, and no longer built for that type of crap.. Got it halfway up and the winch strap broke.... The threads all popped that hold the hook on...Newer strap as well.. Probably made in china.. Tied the hook on,and was very luck the boat was up on the trailer enough that it did not go flying into the river..

next time I think I'll take my little 12 foot Jon, and my little 2 HP, and just throw it in the bed of the pickup,, That boat I can just drag up the bank, lift onto the tailgate and slide it in.. The ramp in the hot fishing zone, is primitive to say the least, which is probably why the fishing is good there... bob

   Just insane fishing right now down here..  At times every cast gets a SMB.. I got about 30 in 2 hours, mostly all over 12 inches. All  brutal fighters too , full of piss and vinegar, airborne leaps etc. Also got a fat 20 inch walleye.. The SMB  are so aggressive right now  all you really have to  do is throw a curly tail on a jig head out and let it sit on bottom, and sometimes it gets hit 3 or 4 times without even moving it.. Its this way every November, and then turns off around the 1st week of dec most years, sometimes a little earlier sometimes a little later... You can catch 50 or more in half a day without even moving your boat,, can't spot burn right here, but if interested PM me... You need a small boat, and  if its on a trailer 2 guys to retrieve it as  the river is high and the current fierce... I almost could not get my  14 foot boat trailered tonight, broke the winch strap and all, and as i write this. its out in the driveway sitting on the trailer half ass sideways,, figures the best fishing is right at the WORST ramp on the river.. if you like river  SMB, now is the time... bob

 Targetsports USA.. They are one of the few that still ships to NY state.. Most don't anymore although its perfectly legal to do so.. their prices were the BEST out of all the online retailers, WAYYY cheaper than local shops or big box stores, and they ship FREE, no sales tax.. We just bought 2000 rounds of .380 for $400.

 thats  $20 for  100 rounds, or $10 for 50 rounds ..  It was brass case Remington ammo..
 

The  BEST we could do locally anywhere was about $15   plus tax for 50 rounds in bulk, for CRAP, steel case, Eastern European rounds..
 

Good .380 ammo starts about $17 for 50 rounds locally .. Target Sports USA made all other retailers look silly with both their prices, and their excellent service... I am DONE buying ammo anywhere else... bob

 If you weren't clearing lines, you most likely found a bunch of fish that were just neutral, and weren't in the mood to play.. The weeds on the Finger Lakes seem to get worse with each passing  year, I dunno, maybe its just me...  I have  seen weeds this year like never before, including on Skanetaeles, where years ago, you couldn't even find a weed if you searched for one...

 gotta watch those "scum lines".. If you were marking a lot of fish, and had lures in the zone without even  a hit, it would not surprise me at all if it was mostly submerged weeds,  leaves,sticks etc.. that crap can go pretty deep  when  its arranged along a current or wind breakline.. I was reading "fish" top to bottom a week  or so ago, while jigging.. When i kept hooking submerged suspended weeds 70-80 feet down, I knew what I was REALLY looking at on my "good screen"-crap... bob

 I have it posted on a NJ salt water site, and will direct any  inquiries to your post, but remember, its almost impossible to sell a boat of any type at this time of year.. If it doesn't sell soon, wrap it up, and try again in april and it will go fast, if not  on this site then for sure  on a downstate site.. bob

 That is an  mind boggling deal!!!... If you really need to sell now instead of spring , I must tell you its just the wrong time of year.. You are giving that boat away.. Your motor alone is worth close to $1600.. I recommend  joining and advertising on these sites..

http://www.njfishing.com/forums/
 

http://www.noreast.com/
 

 these 2 sites  are more salt water sites, where  center console boats are used in the bays and tidal rivers  from march through dec for stripers, flounder, blackfish etc... Your Sportcraft is a very fine boat, but the center consoles are vastly under appreciated here in NY state... Selling any CC is a hard sell around here as most guys simply don't like the design for lakes.. I sure do though, but I just bought a 17, otherwise i would have grabbed yours in an instant.. Try listing it on a salt water site.. MENTION strongly  that its been a fresh water only boat!.. Many motors down there are corroded from years  of salt water use, and a clean motor free of salt wear and tear is a great selling point.. Believe me, guys will make the drive to grab a boat like yours at that price... Let me see if its ok to drive  some traffic to your post fro the NJ site... bob

 Got a 20 incher and a short in the susquehanna river in tioga county   last evening around 5 PM.. Still lots of smaller SMB around, and they are very active and that tells me through experience that the water is still a little  on the warm side for   best  walleye fishing.. A few more frosts and cold nights and the  bite will consist of  much larger SMB during mid day, with a lot of mixed size walleyes early in the morning and again in the evening.. Over the years I have found the best walleye fishing occurs after all the leaves are gone from the trees.. Not there yet.. For me its always been a short window, but late fall is when I catch a lot of good size walleyes in the river... bob

 yes,  depending on price.. the motor is in very good condition... bob

 They are there, but some of us have fished Keuka for decades and never caught one.. Just not that many in there... Best bet is fish Cayuga or Seneca  if you want salmon.. bob

 Well, after close to a MONTH, the "buyer" has decided he doesn't want the boat, so its still for sale.. I wish he would have let me know before i removed the controls and harness.. anyway, as i said, the hull is  solid, ,soft riding, tows like a dream,  does NOT leak, and was always very dependable...
 Please if you are interested, and can use it, don't tell me "I'll be up next week to pick it up", and then after a month say you changed your mind.. Its not right guys... $400 takes it...... bob

1 hour ago, boatguy7 said:

Willing to sell both ?
 If the  buyer doesn't come through.. I will know very soon... bob


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Trade 1977 100 HPJohnson for 50-60-HP motor

  Johnson 1977 100 HP.. clean very well maintained, lightly used... Runs absolutely perfect, strong and fast.. idles beautifully, NEVER starts hard.. Good compression all the way around, and has been extremely good on gas for me.. Lower unit oil is clear and clean.. Brand new water pump, and just fogged for winter.. comes with controls/cable  from the  70's but always worked flawlessly. Has power tilt.
 Its more motor than I want for a 17 ft aluminum center console Grumman I just bought, and I am looking for a 2 cylinder  of 50,55, or 60 HP.. Not  really looking for a  3 cyl, but might consider  a 70, if thats all i can get..
   Looking for something older as this motor is, but well maintained and PROBLEM FREE..      Engine is still on the boat, but controls  and harness have been removed at this time., as I am selling the boat and trailer

. If i get an offer, i can get it ready to run...   Its probably worth $ 900-1000, but I would rather trade to someone that has a good motor but wants more HP.. I want to go the other way.....

I am considering the year in trade value,  this is an older motor, but its very well taken care of, and is problem free.. these old  v4 "loopers" were among the best OB engines ever built... bob

 Motor is NOT included, not for $400 anyway.. the motor runs like   brand new...

 I have a  sale pending but  it has been a while since I heard from the guy.. Not sure but this boat might still be available... bob

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 Has the water cleared up yet?? Last time I was there the lake looked sick.. Green and full of floating weeds, something I had never seen before at Skinny... bob

On 10/18/2017 at 9:06 PM, bandrus1 said:

what is everybody's obsession with making fishing a competition 

 I'm with you.. The late great salt water fishing expert /writer Frank Woolner once wrote in one of his books concerning tournaments-

"Fishing is not a competitive sport, its a contemplative sport"
 

 Bass tournaments have ruined the largemouth fishing in  the north end  of Cayuga Lake.
That area was for many  many years one of the premier bass fisheries in the US, and people from all over  enjoyed it.

 Then the tournaments started...  I know this site is tournament friendly, and I don't want to piss anyone off, but I personally  will never understand the need to be competitive when fishing... bob

 Going to have to hang on to this for a while longer,, Got it running better with sea foam decarb, and will need it for the rest of the season... bob