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2 hours ago, Legacy said:

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28 minutes ago, Legacy said:

So here is the bullet that I shot my muzzleloader buck with. It went through the near shoulder and poked a pin hole through the hide on the far side. (same exact thing it did to my buck last year). So it didn't quite pass through. As you can see there is no mushrooming. No fragmenting. It's practically reusable. T/C shockwave 250 grain 100 grains of 777
Thoughts?



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Expansion is dependent on bullet velocity. There's no comparison of a muzzle bullet and let's say a .270. Not sure how far your shot was, but at 200 yards, the muzzleloader's velocity is probably in the 1200-1400 fps range

My daughter grabbed the muzzleloader after school and went out behind the house. Got this doe ooff of the buckwheat and radish food plot.

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Love it!! WTG


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Looks like a nice southern tier deer camp you have there Chris. 

Thanks Gil.....9h.....paradise


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Another great season in the books. Saw a tremendous number of bucks this year and was able to harvest one in the top five on my property along with a nice doe on the gun opener.

Archery season was incredible after seeing one of the biggest deer in the flesh that I’ve ever seen in the woods. I shot lots of videos of doe and smaller guys beneath me which is always exciting.

It was a year of wind wind and more wind, a nice classic November rut, and afternoon hunts that outpaced the mornings.

It was great following along with everyone this year and learning things every day.

Next up will be hanging more stands, planning a small hinge cut, food plot clearing and a new roof on my cabin porch.

Merry Christmas to all of the LOU family

Chris


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3 minutes ago, dvdegeorge said:

29 days in a row of hunting every day of gun and muzzle loader

Finally got it done this afternoon 

Great deer. You're blessed to be able to hunt that many days in a row. Savor every minute as it's one less year to hunt until it's all over

Thanks for sharing

27 minutes ago, Legacy said:

Hunting tip of the week!

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=568010650064884&id=131900213675932

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Hilarious!!!

1 hour ago, mink said:

Really, Come on! 

If I'm not wearing blaze orange, I'm fair game?  

I.D. your target, or don't. shoot it!  No excuses...

You're missing the entire point. Put some blaze orange on....no excuses

2 hours ago, Missdemeanor said:

Here's a story.... Friday before gun season, this Dairy farmer comes over to the camp I stay at. He Says " Well boys, its an end of an era. I bought the property. You guys are out. I will be a nice guy and allow you to get your stands." I call him on the fact he hasn't closed on the property yet ( only been for sale 2 weeks) and he has zero legal right to post it or kick us out. The guy looks around the camp and says "Well guys this used to be a nice camp....I don't want any trouble to happen...know what I mean?" I'm about to jump off the couch at this point... We ask the guy to leave.... My buddies tell me its not worth it...and they don't want any issues with the locals. Before the guy left he said there was an agreement between the landowners and him...and he sent them money already.... We called the landowner and they did have a verbal agreement, but hadn't received any payment..
Sooo.... The quest for a lease or possible land purchase starts.


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You have a PM my friend

2 hours ago, Legacy said:

I’ll admit it. With my regular season buck tag filled I have become lazy. Without the ability to shoot at antlers, my willingness to be out there has slowed considerably. With the addition of the 2 deer my son shot on Thanksgiving, the need to fill the freezer is also not there. Sometimes I forget that I live with carnivores and they demand that the freezer is full of fresh meat. Even with the 4 DMU permits in hand the idea that I will just go for the rest of the regular season and stack up some does just won’t happen. (Although I may fill one doe tag over the next two weeks if I get a perfect chance to).

I feel like a quarterback that has been bench for the remainder of the season until the playoffs. I’m sure there is a bunch of you that have filled tags and feel the same way. I want nothing more than to be out there but for the sake of the game its better if I am not. We are past the midway point of the season and all eyes are on the late season.

I have a muzzleloader buck tag that I hope to fill. I have devised a plan over the past few days in how I hope to do that. It's pretty simple. Well the plan is simple, I know the execution won’t be as simple. I have a couple of key locations that I am concentrating all of my efforts on and I am not hunting these properties until then. I’m actually planning on hanging a camera at one of those places just to get an idea of how the herd is using it. Ill sneak in (with my truck) midday today or tomorrow and hang. For the most part it will be afternoon hunts only for 9 days straight unless cameras show me otherwise.

Let me know when it’s late season!

Great post - I'm in the same boat. It's funny how the drive goes down the tubes once you harvest a buck.

 

That being said, it's a ton of fun to still get on stand and hunt with your camera and take some cool pics and video

 

Good luck late season,

 

Chris

 

Just got him out. He's a horse. He's a bit busted up. 8pt. Better pics tomorrow and story too.



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Great buck. Thanks for taking the time moderating this thread, too.


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1 hour ago, PeltHunter said:

There’s good and bad of the qdma approach imo depending on the attitude of the hunters involved. I could care less what others shoot for the most part. Would I like to see the neighbors pass on year and a half old and two and a half year old deer? For sure, does it bother me if they don’t? Not really, what bothers me is when the same people with a Facebook picture of a spike on opening day rag on the deer in this state and people who wait for mature deer. The “can’t eat the horns” guys who are constantly pushing their opinion on the “qdma” guys

On the other hand you have the qdma TV show wannabe guys who think any mature deer they have on camera is “their deer” and freak if the neighbor shoots them. We had a neighbor like that at a property I used to hunt a lot I shot a nice 130ish inch deer and my dad shot a 170” inch monster. The guy saw the 170” deer by the house afterwards and felt he needed to stop and cause a scene and saw my post on here and did the same in private messages. Told a neighboring landowner who doesn’t allow hunting that we were poaching deer of his land and everything, because we shot “his” deer. Generally these are same guys who are constantly talking down on and vocal to the neighbors who shoot smaller bucks.

Then there is the middle ground (like the contributors in here) of people who want to kill mature and may have a hit list but are just as quick to congratulate the neighbor on killing one of those deer. I think within the hunting community these three groups (really the butting heads of the first two) has caused a pretty big rift as a whole and with declining numbers as it is it’s not great for the sport. I was in dicks the other day talking to a kid about my age who had just gotten into hunting and he was telling me about guys at work and buddies telling him to wait for a mature buck, he’s not much of a hunter if he doesn’t, etc. He said that he had a couple smaller bucks in bow range he wanted to shoot but didn’t wanna get ragged on by his buddies. I told him I target mature deer now but when I started I’d shoot anything with horns especially with a bow and don’t let anyone make up his mind not to. He shot a little six point and sent me a pic earlier this week he was fired up like you couldn’t believe. I think the sport needs to show more support like that for new hunters as I think a lot of this stuff is what’s pushing new hunters away.


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Good post!!!

1 hour ago, longspurs said:

I agree with you on 40-acre parcels but I was talking about 10. The area that I live in New York state there are lots of land owners that's why I deer in my area get killed at a very young age. A lot more Hunters in an area mean a lot more deer or going to get killed. I hunt big bucks at the start of the seasons and my standards go down drastically as time goes on you can't eat horn. Good luck to all as the days ahead

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Good points on the hunter density issue. The key is to hunt to your own objectives the best you can. I hunt very similarly to you - I have high standards to harvest a mature buck early on, but my standards do decline as the season winds down as my family values venison in the freezer. Will I harvest a spike, a young doe or a button buck - absolutely not, but a 1.5 year old six point on the last weekend of the season may be in my crosshairs. I am 100% against more DEC regs with antler restrictions simply because we are over regulated as it is.

 

Do whatever you can to make your property the haven for deer by increasing cover, food, and as I mentioned low impact hunting and it can really make an incredible difference

 

Good luck this year

32 minutes ago, longspurs said:

It's too tough for people to manage land when the parcels are too small which means a lot more Hunters in some areas.
Say there's 2 200 acre chunks of land .
The 1st chunk is owned by one guy. 2 hunters on it.
The 2nd is owned by 7 different people to make up the other 200. Each has a partner.
So now u have 2 hunters to 200 acres, and 14 to the other 200 ..... Witch do u think will have bigger bucks and more deer? It's not rocket science.
The only thing u can do is make your own decision on what u want to shoot and hope your neighbor follows along


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I disagree - I think you can do a lot to manage your land even if you have a small chunk. Is it easier to manage a 200 acre piece vs a 40 acre piece? Absolutely. However, with proper techniques at creating cover, food sources, and strategies of low impact hunting, you can still create a gold mine on even a small piece of land

16 minutes ago, Gill-T said:

 

I don’t buy the moon itself has some weird effect on hormone levels but rather the moon’s effect on the ability to see in the dark. Full moon they run around all night especially in heavily hunted areas or areas near human intrusion. The deep woods spots I hunt in southern tier have a lot more daytime activity activity than my WNY spots in smaller plots. 

OK - yes I agree with that (full moon and they're out at 2 AM feeding or avoiding daytime predation) but I feel that it has zero effect on the rut.

 

32 minutes ago, Gill-T said:

Full moon this weekend suppressed daytime buck movement IMO. This next weekend plan to sit all day. 

Not by me....I think moon phases and their effect on deer movement is a garbage man-made myth.

 

Just my opinion

 

Chris

1 hour ago, tlombardozzi said:

Took Friday afternoon off and slipped into the stand around 1:30 and started seeing deer right away.  Around 5:15, this buck comes in and my shot was a bit low behind the shoulder and after bumping him I decided to let him rest overnight.  Well, I had to go pick up my ‘new to me’ boat first thing Saturday morning and when I went back late morning to find my buck I found that the coyotes found him first....a bit bittersweet but I am glad I was able to find him.  Saw three different shooters.   Great weekend got a buck and a boat!

Great job Tomy - great buck and beautiful boat!

I cannot believe how great the hunting has been so far this year

 

Be safe,

 

Chris

Interestingly I broke off a small hemlock branch four feet above the ground about 20 yards from my stand in one of my shooting lanes. EVERY single deer walking by smelled my scent on the ground and where I touched the branch. Crazy how they can scent everything


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Guys/Gals - get into the woods if you can....rain, wind, sun or shine. Lots and lots of action the past few days. Every day multiple bucks from 1.5 to stud 3.5’s. Does galore. Had one at full draw but no shot. Play the wind, cover you scent and have a blast as it is game on right now


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Cityots are people who bought some land from a farmer and built a home to be free of the industrial smoke and poor families. They still work in the city and drive an hour each way to work. That is their desire and they want to communicate with wildlife there. But their presence has taken access from hunters and we now wonder why the kids are stuck in the house.


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Have you ever thought that one of these cityots worked his/her ass off, got an education And then decided to buy a piece of country paradise to build their dream home to be CLOSER to nature? Perhaps they too were disgusted with losing hunting opportunities so they put their money where their mouth was and bought their own land. This way their kids can play outside, the cityot can hunt, and maybe they can even be friends with the neighbors and let them enjoy their land too


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7 hours ago, jimski2 said:

Our hunting access areas have been limited by the “cityots “ who purchased some roadside property and shooting is not allowed within 500 feet of their residence. Consider that a half a dozen these properties and a mile of road access is gone forever.


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Care to clarify? What exactly is a cityot and why can't someone purchase roadside property? I must be missing something

4 minutes ago, suttontroller94 said:

Thank you! Sometimes it pays to go on alot of blood trails and see the amazing things that a whitetail can live through aswell as the crazy things that will end a deer quick. I have been on e blood trails before I even hunted this year and think I may have paid some dues! But now it's time to chase the big boys now that I have 1 doe outta the way. Hopefully I can let my arrow find the proper Mark this time

Kudos to your discipline and fortitude to continue searching resulting in a successful recovery of your harvest. You should be commended as I imagine many folks may not have given it that effort.

Thanks for sharing,

Chris

October 14 am
60 degrees
Light sw wind
Cloudy
Can't believe it but zero deer movement this morning. We need some cooler weather!



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You weren’t the only one! Makes me feel better that I wasn’t the only one skunked thus morning.....Monday/Tuesday following this front should be spectacular


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2 hours ago, DJ 17 said:

REDEMPTION!  

 

Hit a doe with my car yesterday morning on the way to work. UGH.. Hit this one with a rage last night with my Mathews! 19.5 inside 8 pt.. I have a ton of pics of him, and saw him at 90 yds on 10/2. Last night he was destroying a tree in the thick stuff behind me and came out to the field edge and started to walk away but turned towards a doe already out in the field and walked right in to 23 yds. At the shot he wheeled and ran and I heard him crash (Both lungs). I went and got my son Daniel (his first track job) and my Dad. He only went 70 yds. Not a big body, but its nice to get one you are targeting. My son and daughter (twin 6 year olds) were unbelievably excited!! Doesn't get much better. Good Luck to all!

Great job - awesome story!

You are doing it right if he was a buck you were targeting.

 

Thx for sharing

Superb video! Thx for sharing. Best part is him throwing the pin bones over the fence into his neighbor’s yard!!


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