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    Wave heights

    in New York Fishing Reports - Lake Ontario (South Shore)

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    51 minutes ago, Sk8man said:

     

     

    All very good points. My point is simply that our perception of very ****ty rough conditions is influenced by many variables (i.e we are bouncing around on the boat in 2 footers and the bow of the boat is bouncing up and down much higher than the actual wave height b/c use are going up and down the troughs, the lake looks nasty, it's windy, etc etc) and we instantly convert our perception into what we perceive the wave is in feet.

     

    I think the buoy data is accurate.

     

    If we were floating horizontal and the boat just went up and down without the bow bouncing up and down I think a 2' wave would be perceived as a 2' wave. However, when you add the variable that your boat is bouncing all over and your bow is riding the wave up and down like a roller coaster hill, you perceive it as much much rougher. I have no idea how to explain this in physics - and don't really care - but the distance you are travelling up and down the waves I think tricks your brain into thinking you are riding super high waves.

     

    I only fished one time in my life in conditions that were so rough that I thought I was literally going to sink my boat and the central buoy data was just barely over 4'........

     

    I cannot imagine your experience of fishing in true12' seas

     

    Chris

    Wave heights

    in New York Fishing Reports - Lake Ontario (South Shore)

    Posted

    From the National Buoy Data Center website on how wave height is calculated:

     

    Detailed Wave Summary (Realtime data files only) 

    #YY  MM DD hh mm WVHT  SwH  SwP  WWH  WWP SwD WWD  STEEPNESS  APD MWD
#yr  mo dy hr mn    m    m  sec    m  sec  -  degT     -      sec degT
2014 09 11 17 00  0.6  0.4  5.6  0.4  4.3  SE  MM        N/A  4.2 134
    WVHT Significant Wave Height is the average height (meters) of the highest one-third of the waves during a 20 minute sampling period.
    SwH Swell height is the vertical distance (meters) between any swell crest and the succeeding swell wave trough.
    SwP Swell Period is the time (usually measured in seconds) that it takes successive swell wave crests or troughs pass a fixed point.
    WWH Wind Wave Height is the vertical distance (meters) between any wind wave crest and the succeeding wind wave trough (independent of swell waves).
    WWP Wind Wave Period is the time (in seconds) that it takes successive wind wave crests or troughs to pass a fixed point.
    SwD The direction from which the swell waves at the swell wave period (SWPD) are coming. The units are degrees from true North, increasing clockwise, with North as 0 (zero) degrees and East as 90 degrees.
    WWD The direction from which the wind waves at the wind wave period (WWPD) are coming. The units are degrees from true North, increasing clockwise, with North as 0 (zero) degrees and East as 90 degrees.
    STEEPNESS Wave steepness is the ratio of wave height to wave length and is an indicator of wave stability. When wave steepness exceeds a 1/7 ratio; the wave becomes unstable and begins to break.
    APD Average Wave Period is the average period (seconds) of the highest one-third of the wave observed during a 20 minute sampling period.
    MWD The direction from which the waves at the dominant period (DPD) are coming. The units are degrees from true North, increasing clockwise, with North as 0 (zero) degrees and East as 90 degrees. See the Wave Measurements section.

    Wave heights

    in New York Fishing Reports - Lake Ontario (South Shore)

    Posted

    On ‎7‎/‎18‎/‎2017 at 7:00 PM, Sk8man said:

    A lot of times whenyou get out there it seems as though it is roughly double what they say:)

    I disagree - I think it's the anglers (me included) that overstate what they think the wave height truly is. A true 2' wave is pretty damn tall and I think many anglers fishing in 2' waves think they are fishing in 4 footers

     

    Just my two pennies,

     

    Chris

    Can I paint my aluminum boat with Rustoleum?

    in This Old Boat

    Posted

    On ‎7‎/‎16‎/‎2017 at 8:18 AM, jimski2 said:

    Using a spray gun subjects you to a DEC violation unless you have an approved spray booth.

    A roller or brush is safer.

     

    Sent from my iPhone using Lake Ontario United

     

    Jimski - you have not replied. Could you please confirm if any use of a spray gun is a DEC violation, or only if you are a body shop? Certainly you must have facts to back up your original post

    I-Bay/Gen river launches

    in Open Lake Discussion

    Posted

    I will guarantee that there will be more vehicles swamped this year than ever before when the knuckleheads start backing into 2-3 feet of water and their boats/trailers and tow vehicles get pulled right into the drink....

     

    Be safe LOU friends

    Braddocks Bay

    in Open Lake Discussion

    Posted

    29 minutes ago, J.D. said:

    Braddocks Bay

     I've been watching the big red barge transporting  Volvo dump trucks into the bay for days now, but instead of heading out to the lake, they are heading upstream around the Buttonwood creek area. Anyone know what they're doing up there?? 

    delivering sand for sandbags perhaps?

    Changing Mono

    in Questions About Trout & Salmon Trolling?

    Posted

    I changed my mono every season. A huge spool of mono is cheap compared with all the other crap you spend money on. Plus it's a fun project to do in the offseason and it's an opportunity to check your reels, line guides, reel seats, etc.

     

    Why not do it once a year when the cost per rod of monofilament is negligible? Just make sure you recycle your used line and don't just throw it in the trash

     

    Chris

    King Slammin Shakedown 4-14

    in New York Fishing Reports - Lake Ontario (South Shore)

    Posted

    4 minutes ago, King Slammin said:

     

    Late start for me this year, work got busy fast. Launched at Wilson around 7 am. We cruised around all the debris in the harbor, and especially out front, and settled in at 55'. The plan was to target lakers with a king spread, just to be prepared. We had our first fish on a green dot spinny/ fly within 20 minutes. Then a lot of dead water. Marked very little fish and no bait. Decided to run to the bar and take a peak. Water was 2 degrees colder on the surface but much better color. We trolled back toward Wilson for a few miles and had a steady pick of lakers with a few flurries to keep us entertained. Kept our three man limit for the garden and called it a day around noon. The boat ran strong round trip and caught some bonus fish. Good shakedown in my book. I did hear of two kings caught today in US waters as well. Bring it on!!!IMG_1492198162.065799.jpgIMG_1492198171.635722.jpg

     

     

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    what does it mean to keep a three man limit for the garden?

     

    Thanks,

     

    Chris

    QDM Good vs Bad

    in Big / Small Game

    Posted

    1 hour ago, Nautitroller said:

    Well said BS. I'd add that if you are lucky enough to own a piece of ground that you can hunt on, it should be up to you as to which deer you would like to harvest. I do my best to increase the carrying capacity of the land I hunt and I feel it's up to the hunter to make their choice to shoot a whichever it be, a young deer or trophy buck if you like. To put restrictions on us ludicrous! NY state has already taken away our rights that were given to us in our deeds. We just rent the property from the state and county. Owning land in NY has become taxing in all definitions. I like to kill mature bucks yes but I love to have back straps on charcoal more! QDM should be quality deer land management with the emphasis on improving the carrying capacity and bettering the herd. Requiring that you pass on a deer that you may enjoy eating way more than your wife enjoys hitting with her new car just doesn't make sense.

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    Fabulous post my friend - couldn't have said it better myself.....and I am an avid landowner and hunter that practices QDM.

     

    Perfect post - thanks for sharing,

     

    Chris

     

     

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