Sk8man

Hey Abe you're kinda hard on the poor old lakers aren't ya (slime balls)?   Enjoyable report....hope we have some sunny warm weather soon to get the water heated up and things moving....

A small black barrel swivel at one end of the leader (and small blackball bearing swivel at the "business" end. You can either keep the swivel you have on there and attach the barrel swivel to that or take it off and tie directly to the barrel swivel at the end of the leader (cleanest option if you don't intend to frequently change setups). 

We need some warm sunny days real bad....all these lakes seem to be running colder than normal  for this late in April.....

As mentioned above  a #3 splitshot placed about 2 ft. above the stickbait will keep it down a couple feet or so and usually will catch grass before it hangs up on the lure as well.

Nothing beats current specific info like Matt provided.  Some general things to offer would include this: Run the lightest  fluoro leaders you are comfortable with (8-10 lb test if you can) Set your drag to accomodate for the lighter leader and the fact that there is little to no stretch in the fluoro ( it will come from your mono main line though). Run your lines as far back as possible. Vary your speed but keep it on the slow end for bigger browns. Don't use big shiny swivel snaps.  If you use one use the smallest possible ball bearing (solid ring) and black. Either tie directly to stickbaits or use duolock snaps or Fast snaps - not swivels. Run s curve patterns when you troll.  Occasionally putting it in neutral briefly and then re-engaging (this is often when they will hit  (after following the lure). Use your boards to exploit the shoreline and consider using only floater type stickbaits and possibly jointed ones (tolerate speed better too) to run right in very close to shore (so you don't hang up). You may be surprised how close you get them in non-trafficked stretches of water especially early in the day (e.g. at first light).

Hey Rob thanks for your concientiousness in staying with this issue and posting great stuff regarding it.....I sure hope one of these days the idiots will no longer rule in Albany

You were too understanding to the guy who got sick...we'd just throw in the front of the boat.. and keep fishing..(even if he's the captain) until he said "uncle" right Admiral Byrd?

Welcome! I think you'll enjoy it here ..a lot of really good folks who openly share info...quite refreshing   Good luck with the trolling!

IIf you smell wires burning, they probably are.

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I've never had much luck reviving big chinook because they fight their heart out and the lactic acid builds up in their system and they are pretty well shot after that fight...

Depending on size of the stickbait....I use one size 3 on the J-9 size Rapala types and two size 4's on the larger stickbaits about 2 ft up from the lure..

If you are using 20 lb mono for main line I'd use a 10 or 12 lb test fluorocarbon leader if you are fishing for browns as it will work OK for other species as well on Lake O.  People who specialize on browns use the lightest leader possible in the Spring especially in close when the water is clear I've even used 4 lb test  in the past on the Finger Lakes but you have to have a little experience with the lighter lines and drag settings to be able to do it right. If you're into fancy knots I'd transition it that way but I use a very small barrel swivel to combine the lines and then a very small black ball bearing swivel (solid ring type only) for spoons and replace it with a small black duolock snap or Fast snap for stickbaits.

Part of your decision will be based on the time of season and particular species sought at that time. For general trout fishing in spring and early summer small to medium spoons are a safe bet. For salmon fishing especially in late summer and fall the larger spoons may be a good bet. In general in Spring 2-3 3/4 inch spoons are good Later late summer and fall if for salmon 3 1/2 - 5 1/2 are the range. Usually I try to match the approximate size of the sawbellies at a given point in time (smaller in spring then getting larger as the season progresses. In the spring for browns spoons at the smaller end run way back are usually more productive

Willing to bet its the bellows very common problem and does exactly what you described

Offshore releases work pretty well too

You could teach your pet monkey to do the updates (they are that easy)

To put it in perspective several hundred pound sharks are caught on 10 pound test line...for fresh water fishing there seems to a lot of "overkill" going on. As long as you have strong enough backing you let the boat and your drag setting do most of the work turning the fish around. I know a lot of folks get "spooked" by a chinook ripping out line and the drag making noise and there is the fear of ripping the hook out of their mouth (more likely with a rainbow though) but tightening down a reel with a 15-20 lb drag with  sufficient pound test backing isn't as "dangerous" as alluded to here sometimes.

Nice fish and good report. Let's hope that those boneheads without life jackets on lived to see another day....I strongly suspect that they aren't folks who would be likely to be on here to see the posting....I would think that the rest of us would know better than that ...but...it is always good to have a reminder when you see idiocy in action I was wondering how deep you were getting those fish (below surface)

Nitro is right your chances of catching an "incidental" Muskie in the lake is about zero point crap.....spend your time figuring out the salmon.

Kinda shows that man  can prevail over the weather (to a degree anyway)   neat post gets the rest of us motivated too. Thanks.

When using copper wire boat speed becomes a big factor...especially when running other types of setups along with it. Copper like other lines has a "bowing effect" especially when speed is picked up and you have a lot of it out. When running in deep water the "lift" when speed increases can be beneficial but when using a copper rig in shallower depths you can't slow up too abruptly because you'll hang up on bottom and sometimes it's not the lure that hangs up its the "belly" of the copper if you have too much out for that depth. Unless fished relatively deep it can sometimes be difficult to regulate your speed for the other equipment for optimal performance and it can be difficult to assess exactly where the copper is running when you are changing speeds frequently. The 45 lb braided (stranded) copper seems to have more drag than the 30 lb but it also seems more resistant to kinking and that for me is more important....the braided is certainly less liable to kink than the single strand that is primarily used for bottom fishing (e.g jerking copper).

First of all there are different types of fleas and their ability to adhere to line differs as well. They occur intermittently inthe water column so sometimes you may or may not troll through them. For those folks who have hit massive concentrations of them it is virtually impossible to get your line back in through the eyes of your rod eeven with a roller tip and guides with a fish on especially....they are no fun....

It's a phishing scam usually its by Email. It has been around for years. Don't respond to it in any way. I'd let Chad know here on the site too.

Wow! Nice going and great Finger Lakes brown!

Welcome aboard Pete. Sounds as though you are ready for action now   Best of luck to you! The important thing about being a fishaholic is that its almost as expensive than drinking but you don't have quite the hangover...