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Sk8man

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  1. Sk8man

    what are your favorite lures to jig for panfish?

    Marmooska and Fiska tungstens, Mud Bugs both with either wax worms or spikes and/or tiny plastic "tails"
  2. The cover and runners would add up to almost that....
  3. Sk8man

    Good read

    Just returned from Freeport Maine from the weekend there. Thanks ....still some work to do on it. I made a visit today to my favorite tackle place in Kittery Maine on the way home at the Trading Post which I first visited over 30 years ago, and it makes Cabelas and Bass Pro etc. look like minor operators. Best tackle shop I've ever seen now both for freshwater and saltwater stuff.
  4. Sk8man

    .357 round for deer

    Stinger makes good points. It probably wouldn't be highly recommended by the experts and I don't hunt anymore but if I were doing it I would put one of the Barnes Expander 140's or the 130 Federal JHP in the cylinder lined up with the barrel and the heavier 158's in the remaining cylinder holes and if I had a close shot i'd shoot the chamber round for the energy transfer and if the shot was further out I'd just spin the cylinder to a heavier load....but that is me (the kick or recoil effect will be different too) P.S. Nice grip on that 357 to help kill the shock to the hand.
  5. Sk8man

    Good read

    Very nice post walnut109 I am trying to capture that feeling in my book with copious detail about the old and new methods and equipment etc. integrating the stuff that is used on both the Fingers and Lake O that works in both environments. Your post captures some of the spirit and perspective underlying that effort
  6. Sk8man

    .357 round for deer

    There used to be a ballistics chart on the Federal ammo website that gave a lot of specs on the different rounds both handgun and rifle info that can give a general idea regarding the particular rounds and distance drop off rates at different distances etc. Might want to check and see if it is still there.....gives a good idea of things but the real world firing of different rounds is still the best bet.
  7. Sk8man

    Good read

    Actually I bought it second hand from my buddy Hop about 30 some years ago It has seen some fish over the years too. You are very right about the spring. Have to be real careful not to turn them too tight and they are hard to find these days if it does haappen. I saw some fancier real nice victrolas at the Watkins show last March that were real tempting Ray.
  8. Sk8man

    .357 round for deer

    My hunch is that this question will generate more questions than answers. A whole lot of variables involved. To begin with barrel length can be a major consideration in how the particular cartridge functions in it and not all brands of factory loads fire the same. The distance of the shot is another important consideration. The particular projectile (bullet type) is another both in terms of bullet weight and foot pounds delivered at the distance you'll be expecting to shoot.. Accuracy is high on the list too and not all cartridges of the same number of grain bullet fire the same in terms of it from a given handgun, and the best advice I can think of is to buy a few boxes of different weights from say Federal or Hornady which usually fire pretty consistently. My thought is that you will want expansion of the projectile but not fragmentation. The heavier you go with the bullet the more kick you'll experience generally too which can be important for second shots. In terms of foot pounds delivered the 130 gr.Federal Hydrashok JHP and the 140 gr. Barnes Expander deliver about 600 fp with good expansion. The downside with lighter bullets is that with distance they wander more than heavier bullets which also relates to gun barrel length. The heavier 158 and 180 gr. bullets will tend to be more accurate down range but they may have less knock down power at your shooting distance. The most extreme differences in the way any of the factory loads function is between handguns with short barrels (less than 4 inches) vs. longer barrels (e..g. 4 inches and longer). Shorter barreled tend to be more sensitive to particular ammo. The solid point bullets don't expand or mushroom as the specially designed jacketed hollow points do (e.g. personal defense ammo) and they may travel right through your target without the damage you want (depending on area hit). The firearm in the above pic looks to have a barrel length at least 6 inches (hard to tell from a pic and I think they come in 7 and 8 as well) so that should deliver a relatively accurate shot with pretty good knockdown power with the right ammo. I think you may be ahead of the game if you test out a few different loads in that particular firearm rather than just going based on general considerations examining the accuracy of it and how well it expands in an appropriate target done at a distance range you expect to be shooting. Each firearm may shoot somewhat different even the same brand handgun with the same brand ammo.
  9. Sk8man

    Good read

    A and S automatic on left and old style basic victrola on the right
  10. Sk8man

    Cayuga Sunday mid morning

    Nice going. have to take advantage of the chances to get out when they occur in the cold weather.
  11. Sk8man

    Good read

    I won't try to counteract the leaps in logic, but for the folks looking at this who may be unfamiliar with the issues mentioned a correction is in order concerning the origin of many of the techniques and equipment used on Lake O. Much of it stemmed from things being used earlier on Lake Michigan, and the other Great Lakes and before that some of the things originated in the Pacific Northwest and the salt water environment; not the Finger Lakes. The Seth Green did originate on the Finger Lakes (Keuka) and copper jerking may have as well but not much of either is real practical or useful on Lake O for a variety of reasons some of them spelled K.I.N G S.
  12. Sk8man

    Good read

    I guess that I would beg to differ with you and that last point. I fished alongside some of those guys back then in my own boat. Captains John Oravec and John Roides etc. at the south end of Canandaigua and they were really good fishermen, and I also knew most of the guides on the Fingers like Don DeSio and Bob Cass etc. and they were very good as well, but these fisheries are quite different especially now and the techniques, equipment, and tactics have changed, and in some cases radically. It is like comparing apples to basketballs in many cases. Some of the charter guys on LOU as well as the hard core sports guys fishing mainly Lake O (and not necessarily the Fingers) are some of the best around and they didn't originate on the Finger Lakes.
  13. Sk8man

    3 or 4 Downriggers

    The recurrent theme seems to be the clearer water conditions have suggested "less might end up as more as far as the fish are concerned" regardless of beam width etc. Too often we tend to overcomplicate the situation with the good old American way of "more must be better" and it isn't always better..... sometimes just adjusting things by running lines further back or away from boat turbulence is all that is needed but often overlooked.
  14. Sk8man

    Good read

    Your grandfather knew Earl quite well Steve and Earl used to launch and fish from the marina. Ray - the guy that you mention regarding the Millers was Captain Bernie Klimzak (sp?) who lived near hamburg NY at the time and then I think he moved closer to Lake O for chartering. Those Miller spoons were deadly as heck and the finish on the few that I have left is just like new still after all these years. I used to buy my Suttons at the Naples store in the 70's and 80's before going night fishing in the company of some of the guys that kept their boats at Clark's who later became charter guys on Lake O. Note the pricing of the spoons at that time below. Hop - I'm hoping that what I'm writing will sort of take up where Earl left off in terms of the more modern stuff integtrated with the old and if it turns out even half as well as his book I'll be happy I pretty much just have to do the illustrations and pics and add and integrate them and it will be done. Hopefully it will serve as a "springboard" for folks new to the scene here on LOU and still offer some interest to the expert "dinosaurs"
  15. Sk8man

    Good read

    Kind of ironic... the timing of this post because I had recently referenced it as a major influence on me in in the book i am writing right now on Finger Lakes Trout and Salmon Fishing (including Lake Ontario as well) which I have been working on for over two years and I had included it in the Reference section I had mentioned the book to Fisherdude when we were chatting one day awhile back and he knew I was writing mine so he gave it to me....fate can be pretty wierd sometimes...
  16. Sk8man

    Rod storage for cheap.

    Geez Nick at first I thought that was the inside of your cuddy Lookin good.
  17. Sk8man

    Good read

    The Quickstrike spoons pictured above were also real good spoons and at one time I had bunches of each of them but not so many left My favorite is the little Quickstrike #11 in hammered silver finish (not pictured above but here it is below).....deadly on the bows with diagonal slash of chartreuse tape when trolled fast. I still have quite a few of them left luckily
  18. Sk8man

    Good read

    Stix Save those out for the next derby Stan
  19. Sk8man

    Legacy- 2018 Deer Season

    Saw this 30 pointer a few minutes ago out my kitchen window
  20. Sk8man

    3 or 4 Downriggers

    I think Rick is right on the money with his answer. My boat is set up for 4 but I have only run three max and not real often as it pretty much precludes running divers on that side where I have the third downrigger position with the boom out 90 degrees so I'm stuck with either boards or outrigger on that side if I run the rigger there. I always run two downriggers with sliders unless fishing very shallow when I omit the sliders
  21. Sk8man

    Good read

    Different guys Mike. If Hop sees this I think he ,maybe can give some info on the Pine Valley spoons as he used to field test them, and used to give some to me way back when. I still have a few of them.They worked well on the Fingers as did the Pirates. I caught a second place brown with one of the Pirates back in 1988 in the derby. Captain Joe Riefer from the Rochester area was the guy who made the Pirate spoons.Good guy and real good fisherman....used to fish the Seneca Derby back in the 80's and the ESLO on Lake O. Great Lakes Lure Maker (Jason) may also know about the Pine Valley guy because he lived down that way (south end of Seneca which is where Pine Valley is). I just don't remember his name unlike a number of the other lure makers I actually met personally. The pic at the left is some Pine Valleys (doctored with tape). The middle one is the top of tthe Pirates.The older model is on the left with the "dimpled" finish. The "newer" model to the right looked nearly identical to the Northern King in appearance both shape and finish.
  22. Sk8man

    2018-2019 Ice Season

    Very creative ad unlike most of the really dumb ones on TV
  23. Sk8man

    Good read

    Matt that book was my "Bible" back in the mid seventies (it was printed in 1975) and served as the same for many of the guys I fished with back then. Earl (the author) used to hang out at Roy's Marina sometimes and fished out of there for years. I lost my copy somewhere along the line and my good buddy Fisherdude generously gave me his copy. I believe the book is now out of print. It was really handy in the small size it was printed bacause you could carry it for a reference when you fished until the stuff became imbedded in your brain. It is still the best source of info on lakers for Seneca.
  24. Sk8man

    Legacy- 2018 Deer Season

    You've got to become stealthier Sean she has your number too easliy
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