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Truly wonderful! job of educating!
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Hopefully you have access to the underside of those areas so you can reinforce them as there can be a lot of torque with riggers and weights etc. although it will be somewhat distributed with a board approach. Best of luck with it. It is always fun when those customizations work out. Make sure to carefully think it through in terms of when everything is one there including downrigger and rod clearances etc. It can help to try a mock up positioning of your stuff before actually finalizing. -
I think if I remember correctly there are two models one for IO's and one for outboards like yours. The connector rod adjusts somewhat between the two motors -
First of all congrats on your results! yes Pete D'Urso the owner and maker of Elmer Hinckley spoons fished with me again this year and those spoons were on fire for everyone and especially the 22's, 777's 88's and 35's. They are the best spoons I have ever used in over 70 years of fishing. For the last couple years or more they are all I use despite having thousands of spoons collected over these many years. Like most folks I too have been guilty of selecting eye candy that appeals to humans but who knows what the fish think of them I was a die hard Sutton guy for years on the Fingers but after experiencing the EH's I have total faith in them. The results of many folks that contacted us during the derby reinforced this. I am convinced that the current plating and action of these spoons that were initially designed and developed in the late 1800's right here on Canandaigua Lake by a contemporary of Scott Sutton both of whom lived in Naples, N.Y. are perfect for this environment. Pete has taken them to a new level as these spoons are not automated on a production line they are hand made and assembled by him. The hammering can be adjusted to be lighter or deeper too. My fishing buddy Bob and I have used them on Lake O with wonderful results on multi trout and salmon species too. They held up without any problems. Many of the painted spoons out there are using standard blanks with much heavier appearance and function in the water. Again, the "eye candy" human attraction is paramount with them in my opinion. These flutter spoons show up way in back of the boat, and the action much more resembles a wounded bait me to me anyway. Some of the current users of EH's are probably a little irked at me for even mentioning them here as they probably consider them as "secret weapons" but when I find things work I enjoy sharing the info here in furtherance of the sport.. MEATMAN your LOU handle is vaguely familiar but if you send me a PM with your name and maybe a little info about where it was Im pretty sure I will remember you. Thanks for letting me know about your results with the EH's. The wind was our main enemy in this derby and I congratulate the winners for their persistence. Unfortunately, we were unable get get anything over 8 lbs. -
The launch at the Geneva Information Center is closed big time dock is busted up too. -
Sandy 5/16
Sk8man replied to whaler1's topic in New York Fishing Reports - Lake Ontario (South Shore)
Nice going Bill -
After 76 years of fishing and thousands of fish all over I still very fondly remember the first one a 12 inch black bass caught in the Yacht Club bay on Seneca Lake with my dad on a bright sunny day on July 3rd, 1949. I still can't top that one! -
I don't believe there is a single explanation for the apparent downturn in participation in the LOC or in Lake Ontario trolling in general. Fishing itself seems to have taken a downturn in participation and especially by young people. The onset of the Internet, video games, intensive involvement in children's sports and extracurricular activities among a host of other competing interests has changed the very face of fishing as a desired outlet. Add to this the economic factors mentioned here by others etc. As a kid I lived on the Canandaigua Outlet and fished about every day after school, I had a trap line for muskrats to earn my money for fishing equipment as well as collected bait and night crawlers to sell to get money so I could send away mail order for my equipment. How many kids in today's world could relate to that scenario? The decrease in involvement in the LOC is not the only one that has significantly decreased in participation. The Finger Lakes derbies have also shown a very significant decline to the point that it is a question mark whether they will even be held in the last few years. I remember that there was in excess of 2500 participants in earlier National Lake Trout derbies now just a few hundred. Look around when at the launch ramps and you will note that nearly all of the fishermen are middle to old agers....again too many competing interests for younger folks and the costs are becoming prohibitive. There 6also appears to have been a shift to perch and bass fishing by many former trout and salmon fishermen. Again ,the many valid points already brought up on here are factors, and when you put it all together the current changes in participation become understandable if not palatable. For me, the derbies have always been more about the challenge above the money and nothing is more exciting to me than seeing families fishing them or kids hooking up with something and getting excited. At this point in life I appreciate just being alive and getting out on the water and having a good time regardless of my catching success.
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Very nice detailed report Anthony. You have really picked up your game since we first met was it ten or so years ago? at the south end of Canandaigua with your family and previous boat....good memory of our chat Best of luck if you do decide to fish the Seneca derby. Les -
Sandy shakedown 4/26
Sk8man replied to Silver Fox's topic in New York Fishing Reports - Lake Ontario (South Shore)
Hopefully those kings are representative of what might be to come later this season -
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Sk8man replied to Silver Fox's topic in Classifieds - Buy, Sell, Trade or Rent
You should feel right at home here...we are all addicts here....just different strokes for different folks -
If no action for 15 minutes or so move. most shelters fold down or collapse on the underlying sled. Most folks move multiple times until you locate fish. Although most folks can be guilty of staying too long in one place because of laziness myself included. The hole is usually drilled first and then the shelter located over it or them. Insulated shelters off a little more warmth. It helps to shop in a place with multiple shelters to make your selection for many reasons and be sure to get one that fits you is comfortable seating, and that is easy to erect and put down. runners can often be handy to install on the bottom for easier sliding in many conditions. Seating comfort is important though when sitting for long hours in the cold. A heater is also a nice addition.
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Hey Steve I think you did better than most -
I talked with a couple guys coming off the ice at north end of Canandaigua yesterday. They said 5-6 inches of ice out as far aas you can see. They were out in about 14 ft. One guy said he saw absolutely nothing in about 20 holes he drilled the other guy had three keepers on the small side. They said it has been very slow. About a half dozen tents out there. Today only three, tents but I didn't stop.
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😃 Worth the $ though unlike a lot of the stuff we buy. -
They all seem to work well both places but the 35,87,22,666,777, performed very well on the Fingers for me but even the bigger 88 and 06 also caught fish. The 666, 777, 22, 06 caught multiple species for me on Lake O. Always pays to experiment
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Really great year, but the looks on those kids faces says it all! -
My hunch is that there is a better chance that Atlantics are heading for the Atlantic ocean via the St. Lawrence/Hudson River route which could help explain the usual limited catch rates if they are truly surviving in numbers in Lake O
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I guess although my original intent was to mention a way to shine spoons up and plating aspects of the Hinckleys it should be noted that these spoons have a nearly 150 year old design history, they are individually hand made, hammered and formed by hand (not robotic assembly line stuff) and what I believe to be the critical factor is their hand formed cupping at the back of them giving them action. Check out the website as it has elaborate detail on how they are made. I think the fact that actual silver and gold are used in the plating may make them more visible from further distances. Regardless, they work very well and are the most effective spoons I have ever used. By the way, I don't have any financial interest in the company (but kinda wish I did). The owner indicated that he gets orders from all over the country (Colorado, California, Tennessee, Vermont etc.) so I guess that sort of speaks for itself too
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Mark - I've used jewelers silver polish on the Suttons with some luck but where the plating is actually worn off it seems hopeless....like yours the brass appears. I guess for the tumbler we have to choose spoons carefully to do it. Some of the Suttons also are laquered and some discoloration can occur under it but in all fairness they still work.
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Brian I don't intend to make a regular habit of tumbling them but as I said the plating on these particular spoons is great. I was more or less experimenting as they were not tarnished at all just water spots which I probably could have just moistened and rubed off with a soft cloth, but I just wanted to let folks know that the method itself works. The spoons are very hearty so I don't really worry much about them as they survived chinooks and large steelhead this year without a mark on them.
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Steve: the plating is pretty solid compared with other spoons I have used (e.g. Suttons). I believe that the only ones that are clear coated are the copper spoons. The ones that I did were mainly water spotted from not drying them off before putting them away not really tarnished. I only left them in for about 1/2 hr. as you probably would for shell casings. The gold and silver plating on them seems very durable after two or three seasons of use.
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Just wanted to share a tip: I wanted to optimize the shine of my Elmer Hinckley spoons after a couple seasons of use. Incidentally, they are all I have been using lately on the Finger lakes as well as Lake O and have caught about 3:1 versus on usual favorite spoons. The gold and silver plating on these spoons is incredible. They were so shiny after polishing I couldn't get a really good pic of them....they are like jewelery. What I did was use a Dillon Precision ammo cartridge vibratory tumbler with walnut shells and a few drops of Dillon Precision polish. For those of you who reload this may be a good way to recondition some plated spoons so I wanted to pass it along.
