I am looking for some help with fishing flashers and flies. I tried some of the information that I picked up on previous posts on Sunday with no luck. I have tried fishing f/f before and have never caught anything on them. On Sunday I tried fishing them off of a dipsey (0 size, back about 120 which should be down about 20'ish, on the 0 setting which would be right behind the boat, not angled out). They were being fished off of Okuma rods/reels with 20lb braided to the flasher then the provided leader to the fly. I trolled that at 2.0-2.4 SOG for about 4 hours and gave up and went to the spoon on a dipsey. I was fishing a Spin Dr. in green body and silver stick on with a blue/green howie fly. After about 2 hours with nothing I swapped the blue/green fly for a blue/purple one...still no luck. Ran that f/f from Watkins Glen to Glenora and finally took it off. I realize that some days are a dipsey day and some are a downrigger day but I have NEVER caught a fish on f/f with about 20 attempts. My f/f gear is somewhat limited with green plain, green/silver, green/green and blue/green holo combo's for flashers and blue/green, green, blue/purple, green/chartruse, green/silver howie flys. I am hesitant to buy more gear for a technique that I am not proficient at and don't catch much on. Any thoughts? If someone out there is willing, I am offering a trip to Seneca on my boat (if we fish my gear what I have is what I have), if you wish to bring your gear because you are more comfortable fishing your gear you are more than welcome too, for a day of fishing in return for some on the water knowledge. We can work out the details....