Sk8man, appreciate the input but I think what I was saying came out wrong and agree with you. That I should look into dipsys before electronics. However that being said my boat fish finder is garbage an I like to fish multiple species and finding structure is important so that is a priority first the probe is really just something one day I would like to have. Nessmuk. Deff gonna look into that book. I'm a very beginner when it comes to trolling so a good read may be very helpful. So back to the task at hand. Any other suggestions for trolling rods?