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  1. I bought some lead core to try to set up on one of my down rigger rods, like you describe. I hope it works. I use large open face spinning reels for my down riggers because I need my level winds with line counters to use for dipseys. Sent from my XT1030 using Lake Ontario United mobile app
  2. Good to see, but a couple weeks ago there was s charter boat operation cleaning dome nice kings at Olcott. He said they were from lake Michigan. I asked why they came all the way to Lake Ontario and he said the fishing is no good anymore in lake Michigan. Whatever happened there. I hope for not happen here in lake Ontario. Sent from my XT1030 using Lake Ontario United mobile app
  3. I am going to rig 2 colors of lead for an SWR to use off my downrigger. I plan to use the sea flee line on the reel. The thing is, I use open face spinning reels for my downriggers, since they don't require a line counter. I use the level wind reels for the dipseys, and a 10 color lead core. The open face reel is a Penn conflict 8000, huge reel. I hope this works.
  4. I do not understand what is meant by the lake turning over, and such. Can someone who has knowledge of this please explain it, and what is different than what we have had over the last month (July). Thank You.
  5. Great advice everyone. Thanks for taking the time to share your knowledge and experience. Sent from my XT1030 using Lake Ontario United mobile app
  6. Ok. Now I have to change my rig yet again. Sent from my XT1030 using Lake Ontario United mobile app
  7. Best knot I have ever used, and easy to tie, Is the crazy Alberto knot. Google it. Way better than blood not IMHO. Sent from my XT1030 using Lake Ontario United mobile app
  8. Is a swr a rod with a short section of lead core behind a down rigger? Sent from my XT1030 using Lake Ontario United mobile app
  9. I also wonder if the speed is to make the lure have the correct action, or is it the preference of the fish? It seems that you could use different lures, some that have action at higher speeds and some that have action at lower speeds, and you could always have a lure that is generating some action-movement, as the speed down at depth varies.
  10. ah, yeah, pretty tough as I have discovered too, with no probe. But we keep trying, and we catch some once in a while, but so far no 25 pounders!
  11. I use a crazy alberto knot, (Alberto Knie) by far the best and easiest I have ever used for joining two lines together. I use the palomar for tying to swivels or hooks.
  12. I made my spools (reels) out of toilet flanges. One plastic and one with the stainless steel ring, which spins. Glued them together to make the reel. you need one plastic and one with the steel ring to make one reel. I could not find the electric wire spools that were heavy duty enough when I built mine.
  13. I shortened mine from 4 ft. It was difficult to set lines compared to my shorter down rigger. The next trip my prop cut the cable. Motor is on that side. Sent from my XT1030 using Lake Ontario United mobile app
  14. I use the Chinook diver, so I'm not sure how that equates to the dipsey brand. I assume the weight discussion is the same, put the weight towards the boat, which seems backwards, but when I was using them the other day I thought they were going the wrong way . Maybe that explains it. Sent from my XT1030 using Lake Ontario United mobile app
  15. Paul, I met you at the lotsa meeting. You gave a good presentation. I'll consider taking a charter as a shortcut to learning all this on my own. It is good advice for sure, and I actually thought about it before. I'll start budgeting for that. Sent from my XT1030 using Lake Ontario United mobile app
  16. I'm Using 10 colors of lead core, with a cowbell (or spin doctor) and a spoon and it has caught me some nice steelhead this year. 5" cowbell was working great until it broke in half on a nice one. Ordered some more. I find it easy to use, and the reel does not have to be as HUGE as it takes for 300 or 400 copper. I tried, and had to take the copper back because I couldn't even get the 300 copper on, let alone the backing The 45 Okuma I had allowed lead to go on with a good amount of backing. I think 10 colors will get down about 50 feet per the package, but as someone said, no way to know for sure. What I have read is the leadcore actually undulates up and down in the water column up and down, so you are covering a range of depth.
  17. I won't be able to get out until the weekend after next try all the advice. Out of town this week, then when I get home I have to change the prop seals in my 9.9 evinrude, its leaking. I will try to apply what was said here and see if we do better. There is some difference in opinion on the temperature importance. From that, I will use it as a reference or starting point, and keep looking for big fish on the FF, but we have not seen many.
  18. When you say flashers do you mean 10 inch or 13" paddles? Or spin doctors,? I have some atomic flies I can try again but I never caught anything on them. I have caught fish on spoons, meat, and brad killer baits. I just ordered a fish hawk TD, so I can know what temps are below the boat. Sent from my XT1030 using Lake Ontario United mobile app
  19. it would not be my choice for the reason stated above. I re-built my floor- stringers- deck -and transom. Put plywood down and covered it with resin for the deck. I now need to put down marine grade vinyl, but have not done it yet.
  20. Interesting. Good info. I will adjust my presentation. My fishfinder is a lowrance elite 4 CHIRP. I set it for medium chirp and found it gives me a bigger cone of view than high chirp. We see bait balls usually (except saturday morning) and we see a few fish, not loads of them though and we've never seen a fish down more than 70 feet.
  21. THANK YOU for all the advice. I have been going out of Olcott. The consensus seems to indicate I may not be fishing quite deep enough with my deepest rigger only at 100, just once in a while, and only 180-200 feet of braid out on the dipsies. Yes, I know I need a probe, but I will have to just take the time to take temperature readings with my thermometer tied to a fishing line (DEPTHERM).
  22. I'm new to salmon fishing. I've been out about 10 times, and I am learning more every time I go out. I never got skunked yet, but I have never caught a mature King. I catch nice big steelhead sometimes, lots of small salmon 24" and under, a couple that were about 10 lbs, but never a large 20 plus pounder. When I come into the ramp, folks have coolers of big 20-25 pounders. I wonder what I am doing wrong? Here's my program: 2 downriggers- one at 50- 60 and one at 80-100. One has cut bait, one has Brads Superbait filled with tuna, both 36-48" behind a spindoctor or paddle. Usually about 20 feet behind the ball, because when I go longer they seem to tangle with my dipsys. Big mast boards. I usually run 10 colors of lead core off one of them, with a flasher and a spoon. One or 2 rods with Chinook divers. Set on the 2nd or 3 rd side hole, and running 150-200 feet of braid . Boat speed I try to maintain 2.5 to 2.7 GPS speed over ground. I have no probe, nor can my marriage allow the purchase of one until my wife gets her new kitchen, and she forgets how much I have spent on this endeavor. I try to maintain 30 -45 degree angle on my rigger cables. I troll NE, NW , N, S, E and west, but have no idea what direction is best relative to the wind direction. Should I got into the wind, against the wind, with the wind? does it matter? I have fished from 100 - 35- feet of water. Most of my luck has come around 125-250. Any help would be greatly appreciated' Thanks, Garry
  23. By the way, I have no probe. Just getting the big reels, line, lures, flashers, used downriggers, and making my own planer mast system, has cost too much already. I have been trying to maintain 45 degree angle on the rigger cables, and 2.5 to 2.8 GPS speed.
  24. I'm new to the LO salmon fishing but I have had some limited success by listening and reading everything I can, and asking folks with full coolers at the Ramp. Some have been very helpful. I also joined Lotsa and went to the seminar thursday night. If you were there I was the one asking lots of questions of Paul from tri Sate Charters! Saturday, we got two 24 inch salmon and one 30" steelhead in about 240 FOW. Slighty west of olcott launch. two were about 60 feet on the rigger, one was on a huge black metal diver with 200 feet of wire line out. (I hate that stuff may take it off). Sunday, took wife for first time on the boat. Trolled from 100 FOW out to 350 and back to 130. NOTHING. She was not impressed with my abilities and the drone of motor irritated her. Why can't we fish like normal people?, she asked. Our best day was 5 fish in 125 feet of water thursday before last. They bit good from 5 am to 7 and then nothing, total shut down.
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