Low Baller

3 minutes ago, greenhornet73 said:

Happened to me twice fishing on Oneida lake, once casting and another while ice fishing.  Both were cloudy days but our lines floated up out of the water when casting and our rod tips were literally buzzing both times.  I could see how it could cause some static issues especially with electronics on the boat.

Here's another twist, my fish hawk x2 is the mobile unit with a small transducer that clips on the down rigger. It's battery operated 4 AAs in the probe and 2 AAs in the screen. It was off and still had weird lines running through the screen. I was pulling gear when it happened, still had one rigger in the water but the probe was out. I should never had said anything to my wife. Now she won't go in the boat for fear off dieing. 🙄

Just read a ton of different articles and threads on misc. Boating sights. Most senerios point to a wiring issue in the boat. But...that electrical storm that ran all the boats off last Saturday evening must have been producing strong static electricity. I'm curious if anyone else out that evening experienced similar situations. 

I'm going to check the boat , but I'm leaning towards the storms. 

29 minutes ago, greenhornet73 said:

Yeah, if my boat was shocking me I’d be nervous as well.  Is all the wiring new?  Seems like if it is it should be an easy solution for someone that knows electrical installations.

Never did it before, didn't do it all day until that thunderstorm rolled in around 6 pm Saturday. Crazy,guess she's going to the shop and trace wiring. 

53 minutes ago, whaler1 said:

You and yours are welcome any time Clark!

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12 minutes ago, greenhornet73 said:

Don’t miss those hand cranks too much Clark.  I was fishing 80’ down with both riggers yesterday and after going off 12 times on lakers my arms were feeling it pretty quick.

Good exercise, did it for 10 yrs. Worst is a Dipsy out 250 that won't pop. 🤣 Think I have a breach somewhere. I don't do electricity. 

Thanks Crestliner, I think lol. Don't understand why they didn't work right just on separate battery and did when grounded to crank battery, then still worked when I removed the ground to crank battery. Weird. Maybe the short is in one of the riggers and not the boat? I don't know, more frigging problems. I miss my 16 with hand cranks already. 

Next  labor day weekend I'm crashing your party Bill😂

I need a little help! When I tested gear at my local lake a week ago the Cannon 5s would only work when holding the switch up or down. Read that I had to ground the battery for the auto up-down- stop to work. Using a 12" snubber at ball instead of the little factory plastic water line breaker. Ran a 10g wire from rigger battery negative to ship battery negative as suggested..everything worked Saturday. Saturday evening when the thunderstorms chased us we were getting shocked by everything you touched in the boat. Freaked me out. There were a few local lighting flashes at the stacks in Mexico that chased out most boats. When we pulled gear and ran the on board shocking stopped. Next day, Sunday I disconnected the negative post connection thinking I had a bad ground in the boat and was getting feedback somewhere. The riggers worked without the wire and not grounded. I'm totally confused. Was I  picking up static electricity from the lighting or was I close to a water strike, or wtf? Lost

So that's what they look like 👍 

Lake O 3, us notta. 2 knock offs and a screamer that broke off. Great trip. New boat ran great, few tweaks and good to go. If I don't get back this year I'll see you all next year. Good luck, God bless, keep it tight!

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Cruised the 120 out of SR this afternoon. Nice ride, couple knock offs on riggers with spoons. 50° down 80 but sporadic. Clear screen. Thunderstorms chased us out early, back at in the morning. 

Appreciate the support . I'm stopping at the store for bananas 🍌 

Well that sukked. Temps all over the map, Mike had his head in a bucket,  Brandon ate all the donuts, try again this afternoon.... maybe.  Or Cayuga for Lakers. Oh well, bin there done that 😂 

Sept.1.Should arrive around 8:30 this evening. Waited all year for this run. Hopefully have some pics and reports over the weekend. Have my son-in-law Mike and grandson Brandon. Looking for Mike's 1st salmon, Brandon's 3rd. Picked up a cobra hand held, curious to what channel you folks hang on. I'll check in the morning. Is pine grove in good shape, or am I heading to Mexico launch?

Any starting #'s would be appreciated. Good luck,  keep it tight!

Great pics, this weekend is looking decent so far. FYI,  I Google Gary D, all I got was a port site. 🤔

Good read. Spent 14 years running a 16 misty harbor with a 25 tiller and hand cranks. Good times,  long days, and few humbling days. Overall some of the best fishing in my life time. Keep your head on a swivel, fish your gear, and respect the lake. They're just fish.

Keep it tight, see you on Mexico bay in a couple weeks. 

Ok, question! Just received the mag 5s yesterday. Boxes looked like they were used for bowling pins. 1st,  trying to pull the plugs apart without destroying them. Are they always that difficult or am I that weak? They say quick connect, my a$$!! Next they require an insulator between the ball and cable for the auto stop. I purchased a pair of 15" snubbers. Will the snobbery act as the insulator? Or do I still need it? If the snubbed works, it'll keep the balls in the water a little further, just have to rezero the depth gauge I guess. 

I'm over thinking it I'm sure. 😕 

41 minutes ago, greenhornet73 said:

If it were Amazon, they would just leave it on the side of the road without you even asking. I know because they’ve done it twice to me.

I know, funny thing is I ordered with Amazon prime 🤣  can't win. Maybe I'll be ready for labor day, otherwise I'm running cranks 

3 minutes ago, whaler1 said:

Have you considered tracks with dual action rod holders (I love my Cannons) can articulate in any degree of angle. 

I'm thinking about it. Right now I'm having a war with FedEx trying to get my riggers delivered. For some stupid reason they're requiring a signature. Tried the last 2 days to deliver. Just leave the sh$t by the garage like you always do. 

Had it out last October for the Buffalo run at Sandy Hook. Handles 4 footers well but I wouldn't stand up to retrieve fish. Angler should have raised the gunwales a couple inches or lowered the deck. Oh well, we fish what we have, not afraid of running the Misty to the 200 yd line lol.

1 hour ago, Sk8man said:

Yep mine was a factory install too. Wish I had had the option of having it done myself. But the top itself is a really good one....just the location

I need a bigger boat 🤣

1 hour ago, Sk8man said:

The one thing to mention is that because of the positioning of them in relation to my bimini mount. I can't use the bimini and rod holders at same time. The other 30 degree mounts (I have four inset on the boat are used for the riggers so that I can also use four downriggers if I wish and not run the dipsies etc.. I have electrical connections for each of the four positions.

😆 same issue here with the Bimini. I'd love to put a custom soft top on it so the tie downs and frame are out of the way. Another grand!🤑😮‍💨

3 minutes ago, Sk8man said:

Clark this is what I went to: a combination of Cannon gimbal with short section of track and three per side Cannon rod holders. Two of the rod holders are the dual axis toward the front of the boat on each side allowing flexibility in angling the rods when running multiples and the lat ones are single axis which seem better for dipsies as they are a bit sturdier.I generally run two dipsies per side and use the third for boards and thus far they work fine with no problems after a few years use. One of the beauties of it is I have no holes in my boat (other than one in the top  of the dash for the depthfinder wires) and everything comes off for storage etc. It then becomes a recreational boat when others want to go for a ride.

Yes, I really like your rig! Mine is similar, 2k Angler 180 walk through. A little tight but more comfortable. My question is, Like Hornet mentioned, is will they work on a 30° mount or do I have switch to 90°? There's only about a foot or so between rigger gimbal mount and the forward. Don't want to drill holes and use a backer plate for track system. 

Thanks Less

6 minutes ago, sherman brown said:

I made do with manual for 25+ years then I had a little extra dough and there was a price war between 2 sellers on eBay and I bought 2 Big Jon pro tournament riggers for the unbelievable price of 500.00 a few years ago for fishing the central basin of Erie. but for the 1st few months, I walked around with a sore behind where I kept kicking myself for not getting electric many years sooner, LOL. I am getting older and cranking the manuals in was getting more like work than pleasure. using the electrics was a pleasure and so much easier and faster to use. no real learning curve to switch as they make it so much better. 

 

I have tried many weights with them. 2 years ago we bought a new to us boat. when we started to fish we had forgotten the 12# pancake weights at home. but the boat came with a set of used =Cannon riggers and 8# dredge weights that we had to use. To my amazement, those 8 # dredge weights worked better and had much less blowback than the 12# pancake weights I had been using. I just bought a new set of 10# dredge weights to see if they work any better, but haven't got to use them yet.

 

as for rod holders for using any of the divers like the ones I use the lite bits slide divers rigged like a dipsy with a 7' leader and I don't use the slide system, or the dipsy or the deeper diver I have settled on the Cannon ratcheting holders. the thing I like best is they can be set using one hand. I tried the Traxtech ratcheting holders because they have 17 up and down settings whereas the Cannons only have I think 6. but to set them it takes both hands so I switched back to the Cannon holders. after using them I could never go back to a stationary holder for running divers. when you get a fish on pulling back on the line making it a little bit of a pain to remove the rod from the stationary holders. but with the ratcheting holder, you just grab the rod and lift it up and the holder ratchets straight up then just lift the rod out of the holder. hodgesmarine.com is the best place I have found to buy them.

 

some people prefer the dual axis as the turn 360 whereas the single axis only turns 35 in each direction but you can choose the amount you turn them for fine-tuning the left to right adjustment. the duel axis uses a pin that sets the adjustment. you go from one hole to the next which may not align like you want. but the single can be adjusted 1/8"
if you want. they are a little more trouble to set but you only need to set them once.

You are a wealth of information Sherman! Thank you. What I've always liked about this site is that most folks with experience with multiple setups are more than willing to share their wisdom. Saves us weekend warriors alot of aggravation and money. 

Keep it tight!