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Sandy 8/11
RC36 replied to Matt From Kingston's topic in New York Fishing Reports - Lake Ontario (South Shore)
Thanks for the follow-up. Tight lines . -
Sandy 8/11
RC36 replied to Matt From Kingston's topic in New York Fishing Reports - Lake Ontario (South Shore)
Are you out of Kingston, Ontario ? -
Sandy 8/11
RC36 replied to Matt From Kingston's topic in New York Fishing Reports - Lake Ontario (South Shore)
That's a good road trip. -
Apologies for the long report. We usually spend most of our trolling time on Canadian NW side of Ducks, close to the shipping channel from the St. Lawrence towards distant Toronto. But haven't been able to hook any salmon there yet this summer (still lots of lakers). Since we keep NY permits, time to try the other side of Ducks along the "Wall" trench line that runs about halfway between Ducks and Gallo Island. Saturday 3rd: 7am - 1pm... about 10 boats there all morning, most looked like charters. I was out solo, so was happy to go 3 for 6 (1 brown + 2 nice sized salmon). Always a little precarious ''solo'' netting and releasing unhappy salmon in a moving boat, but I always wear an inflatable vest with a remote for the autopilot, and both a remote engine kill switch and a satellite beacon in case I fall overboard. Pretty calm seas, saw lots of other boats catching fish. Good day for everyone. Note of caution: that trench line looks like a pretty reliable drop off from about 50-60 ft falling down to 100 ft. Running both Navionics and CMAP chips on side by side screens. They are just ''shxt", especially in this area. Donated a 15 lbs downrigger shark to the bottom when a 54ft hump appeared in 90ft on the chart. Fortunately, the weight's snubber broke, and no other damage. All this happened with a fish on ! Now that I have about 15- 20 hrs in that area this week, I have marked a lot of the humps and ledges. If you are new to that area, either stay further out in deeper water, or all gear at 50ft and above if you are close to the drop off, cause the bottom comes up fast. Thursday 7th: very wavy. The 3 of us bounced and rolled around from about 6am until noon. We intended to put out a bunch of lines, but settled on only 5 lines: 2 riggers + 2 divers, and a distant Chute planner with Leadcore, to avoid tangles and for our safely handling lines. We marked some fish and bait, but strangely we found the only Sheepshead at 60 ft over 100 fow. Only saw one other boat. That was it, and we bounced our way home. Sunday 10th: 3:30-7:30pm. My buddy and I saw lots of marks and bait all the while sweating to death, very calm, no breeze, hot sun. 4 salmon + 1 laker hitting 4 rigger rods and 2 dipsys. Only lost one fish, as something hit one of our flasher-fly- meat rigs cutting the line, after a brief yank. Well at least we got the flasher back. Good success with Carbon 14 spoons, black on glow. Two other boats out. Stunning sunset and a very fast run home on flat water. Mostly, we troll about 2.5 mph or 4-4.5 kph. While we tried all depths from up high, to 90ft., most hook ups were in the 50-70 ft range. Lots of aggressive followers on the graphs this week, which keeps everyone excited. Last year, we tried one day stacking 2 rods per downrigger, and far from beginner's luck, we just made tangles anytime we caught a fish. But this time, better organized, especially clearing lines and gear quickly, perfect. Interesting range of sizes and ages, best guess, 2 to 4 years olds. All released for next time.
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We are super Bills fans and we have a winter place near Tampa, so Bucs too. Also, fished a couple of years in Gulf of Mexico. You would probably have a better experience going out in the Atlantic side. Good luck.
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Friday 18th at Scotch Bonnet: Fished 9am to 1pm, slow... 1 salmon, with 6 lines (rigger, divers, boards). Back into Wellington for lunch for the 4 of us. Then 3 to 7pm: better results with 5 for 7 hook ups (total approx 85 lbs for the day) with largest being a 27 lbs salmon to the boat, all released. Next day, Saturday 19th: same set up and areas, 4 for 8 to the boat, largest being 20 lbs. (total 50 lbs) . 6am to 1:30pm. Fun 24 hours out at the Bonnet near Wellington. --------------- This past Saturday, slow going out to Duck Islands due to fog at 6:30am. Thick fog lasted over an hour. Thank goodness for radar. Finally got out there and we chased Lakers, and brought 5 to the boat in 3 hours. Unfortunately, slow ride home, because a sensor problem stopped one engine from restarting. So 3.5 hrs to limp back. But it was scenic !!
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Bluffers
RC36 replied to James Schruba's topic in Ontario, CA Fishing Reports - Lake Ontario (North Shore)
Lots of big Lakers off the Duck Islands again this year. A couple of buddies and I, got our boat, long ride by water from Kingston, down to Wellington on July 20th, 2024 weekend. A couple of salmon, on Friday (one snapped off my rod holder, and overboard it all went), zero on Saturday (too wavy probably), and a great day on Sunday. We are still picking up a few lost straggler salmon about 10-20km west of Ducks, but if you are able, Wellington to Cobourg is the place to be.- 1 reply
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Our story: had a few hits early, with a couple of misses. Hooked up a meat, decent fight coming towards the boat, broke off about 100 ft out. Never made it to the boat and net still up in the holder. Pulled in remains of meat rig. Broke off just at attachment to herring. Lost holder, single hook, and triple. But still had 4 ft of line with all the sparkly flies. Break at the end of the line was a bit coiled at the end where it snapped. Few hours later, after several passes over the same long runs, hooked up, pulled in the Brown on another meat rig. Unhooked it quickly, got it back in the water. Put the rod aside after securing the hooks. My buddy is rinsing the net, notices a bit of a tangle, says “you have broken another meat rig, here is the triple hook” stuck in the net. Darn I think. I look over at the rigger rod, but the meat rig is totally intact. We had not lost or damaged, or had any extra gear out on deck all day. So where did extra triple hook come from ?? We still had leftover parts from morning break. We lined it up. The broken line had the same coil in the line. It was surely off a meat rig, cause it had the clear plastic sleeve in front of the hook. Still clean and shiny, so had not been it the water too long attached to the Brown. So we caught the same Brown twice. Incredible! (FYI put 11 hours on the water Sunday, July 23 trolling further west towards Point Petre. A bit on the wavy side, rolling around in 3-4 footers. Caught zero. That's fishing).
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Guidance Requested...
RC36 replied to Lewis863's topic in New York Fishing Reports - Lake Ontario (South Shore)
Good point about hitting bottom. Last 2 years have had Fishhawk probe. Always been deepest down on Port side to get most accurate, depth, temp, speed etc.., then set up all other lines with that info as guidance. Ex: usually Starboard rigger is 20 feet less cable down (probably 10-15 ft of depth). Two weeks, on buddy's boat, trolling at 115 ft, went over 85 ft hump. He lost 15 lbs. shark weight in an instant. Fortunately, only damage was a peeled apart clip at shark. Made me think about what would happen on my boat, if I hit the probe, Port side. So, now Starboard weight is deepest, and probe, Port side is higher. Always good to learn thru other people's experiences. 3 yrs ago, fortunately, going very slow for early Lakers in 80 FOW, hit 60 ft hump while a buddy had a "fish on". Went into Neutral, while 180ft of downrigger wire pulled out. Landed/released laker. Pulled up all other gear. Then slowly backed up, gently pushing green power button on rigger. Once close over hump, maybe passed it a bit, with gloves on, was able to pull shark weight free of the bottom. You could say we were 2 for 2 in that instant. LOL ! -
Bigger, mature Salmon may finally have arrived for their short migration trip past our area, (bit of a long ride out of Kingston): From east edge of Petre Point to west edge of Prince Edward Point (point closest to False Ducks). This won’t last more than a few weeks before they are gone. Saw 2 other boats trolling, hopefully they will write a report. (Side note: Been on the American side, off Stony Pt. a few times lately. As many as 25 boats all in same area. Remarkably courteous, and friendly, but no one had planner boards out as sometimes only 100-200 ft off each other, sometimes 3 wide crossing each other.) Yesterday, caught a few, missed a few, but lots of action, happy friends. Largest was 17 lbs, 38 inches. Location and pattern: 6:30 am to noon. Dipsy’s with spoons, and riggers meat on flasher flies. Green anything seemed best. In Shipping Channel or 1-2 kms on offshore side of it, in 120-150 FOW. Hitting 70-80 ft. down. Fishhawk probe was repeatedly showing deep current travelling 1 -1.5 kph heading westward (which is completely opposite of what you would expect for the Lake to drain towards St. Lawrence River), but there was big weather the day before, which may have pushed a lot of water into East Basin, and it had to drain back into centre of Lake Ontario). We were trying to keep probe at 4-4.5 kms/hr., and temps below 50-55F. (This was hard to do with Lake stirred up). So, boat speeds ranged from 3.5 – 5.5 kph., depending on direction. Hope to read reports of big salmon around Wellington or Scotch Bonnet, as a trip there would be fun, but would like it to be productive.
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I have had it for a couple of years. Use it on braid mainly. Removes chunks up to the size of your finger nail, pretty well, usually smaller blobs is easier. A couple of times if I get impatient or force it, have broken/cut the braid. So best if all your gear is in the boat, not hanging out over the side, when stripping fleas.
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Henderson kings
RC36 replied to Kevin J Legg's topic in New York Fishing Reports - Lake Ontario (South Shore)
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Fair Haven 6/29
RC36 replied to Hooked on Kings's topic in New York Fishing Reports - Lake Ontario (South Shore)
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Only boat out at the Cdn. side of Ducks all day. Left at 6am, in the heavy fog, took much longer, even with radar, to slowly get out there. But Lakers started hitting soon and we were marking big fish and massive bait balls everywhere. Heavy fog never cleared. 5 lakers on riggers at 100ft, plus one on dipsy, all released. Even a crazy double where they crossed and had to retrieve 2 all tangled. Started at noon, to pull up riggers and put away everything. Last thing in was a dipsy, that then hit really hard and was giving big shakes, pulls, and runs.....made no sense for a deep laker ??? In closer to the boat, could see it was a nice salmon. Landed it, quick bonk on the head. Time for a photo, head home, and warm up the BBQ. Nice chinook, King: 17+ lbs, 34 inches. Super random fish. It should not be there until middle of July. Just lucky. !!






