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5 minutes ago, just me said:

Falls thru hit me up thanks 

Will do.  

41 minutes ago, ifishy said:

It's not a breakwater it's an artificial headland beach and was never intended to aide or help the channel in anyway with plan 2014 one of consequences will be places like that getting sandbars naturally building up especially low water years

Not according to Chuck Schumer when they were starting the project.  Gotta love politicians.  Anyone that has boated on Braddocks knew he was full of sh*t.  A pier and a complete break wall along with some dredging would make Braddocks a good port.  

Sold pending payment

I have two of the these Perko rod holder rod racks up for sale.  $100.00 for the pair.  I don’t really want to ship them but will at buyers expense.  

9 hours ago, King Davy said:

Yeah I know the hatchery product has been suspect at times. I helped clip them spring of 2022 and it was so cold in March in the tank room there was five inches of ice on the tank pipes. We had to bring propane heaters in to thaw out our hands about every 10 minutes. Tough environment to raise these fish in. Yet the ones I catch and see in the finger lakes are great fish.

 

Hopefully the Federal product will be much more consistent.

The ones that survive to adults seem to look great.  Here is one I caught a couple years ago.

1 hour ago, King Davy said:

Gambler did it look like the fins may have been clipped. The adult fish being caught now are from the ADK hatchery and all LO fish were clipped adapose and or both Adapose and a vent clip. ( those raised in pens). Now all the LO fish are out of VT. 
 

DEC has brokered a management plan with Federal hatcheries to obtain Salar hopefully in greater numbers. I heard the lake creel census showed an increase in landlocks caught . I know of a couple captains out of Oswego who’ve never had the opportunity to check in with the creel boat who’ve caught dozens of salar.

 

The trib creel census showed a high catch in our Sandy creek and Oak orchard. So it would seem they are becoming a part of the targets one can hope/expect to catch both on the Lake and tribs.

No Dave.  They were deformed, curled, or worn.  I wish I still had the photos to post.  Horrible product.  The bigger ones we have caught look in a lot better shape (maybe better survival when they have good fins?).  

53 minutes ago, Morgan-E said:

"Develop additional hatchery capacity to support the Lake Ontario Atlantic salmon fishery management objectives. Partner with the USFWS to raise 140,000 yearling smolts at Eisenhower National Fish Hatchery from 2023-2025. Pursue continued partnership opportunities with USFWS for fish production beyond 2025."

 

If the USFW is not able to deliver or increase to meet objectives then this may become a real question.

The Powder Mill hatchery would be a great place to raise Atlantics.  Contract out the hatchery to raise Atlantics.  The government loves contracting stuff out!  

32 minutes ago, Morgan-E said:

The question might become "will you give up coho for Atlantics?" when / if they need the space to rear them into the Spring because they will be on the same plan as coho in terms of hatchery use and space on the calendar year from what I know about their needs and development.  I hope that this will not be the case / ultimatum and that another facility will be able to house them to not displace the coho.

 

I am sure that this plan will be discussed at the next ELOSTA meeting on September 20th at Runnings Clay 7PM and again at the October meeting TBD.

 

 

Atlantics are raised in a federal hatchery and the Coho are raise in the Altmar state run hatchery.  I don't see that happening.  

Atlantic numbers seemed to be up some this year.  We caught a couple compared to 1 or 2 in a season.  All I'm going to say on this topic is, if they want more atlantics to survive until adulthood, they might want to stock a better product.  EVERY atlantic we caught this summer had damages pectoral and dorsal fins.  I have seen some in pics that looked great and they were bigger fish.  

18 hours ago, LongLine said:

Too bad Roch 1st didn't read the press release.  They're going to keep the water level UP. 

Get ready for flooding next spring.  A winter prediction of good winter + high lake going into winter = lots of water!  

14 hours ago, rapala said:

WANT TO CATCH THE BIG ONES?????  This worked for me many times!!!  I would start fishing at 10AM , most of the fishing boats are in at the docks.  I would  check out with them where they were fishing, how did it go . Than I would set up about a 1/2 mile deeper water.  The big ones are loaners and stay away from the pack where most of the fleet catch the easy ones .  SMALL ones.   Fish in 40 degree water, go  close to bottom like 5 to 10 feet  go as slow as you can, that your bait is working RIGHT. You might not catch alot of fish BUT the one you do catch ARE BIG.  The big ones like cold temp, they are big and fat and move slow,  you have to but bait right in front of them because they are lazy to get a easy meal.  I fished for 20 years on Ontario and in the marina  fished out of I was known to catch the big ones.  I fished by myself, it was nothing for me to have 3 slobs on at the same time. 

Big ones like cold temps in May, June, July and the beginning of August.  Once they start staging, things change.  As for the rest of the advice, I can agree with most of it.  

Awesome! 

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Everything in this lot is brand new in the package.  NK mag spoons, 11” paddle, coho flies, GRC flies and a cutbait rig.  $75.00 shipped to the lower 48.  

1 hour ago, VanderLaan said:

Thanks. That's what I am thinking of doing. All wire? Other than fleas or cost, is there a reason to run braid instead?

I run all wire.  Fleas suck no matter which one you choose.  

Mother Nature shook the snow globe really hard the past two days.  Its going to take a couple days to settle this mess out!  

38 minutes ago, VanderLaan said:

Thinking of adding two more dipsy rods to the spread. Current rods are 9'6"/MH/wire. Have read where one would want some tip separation. Is this overblown or should I be looking for shorter/longer rods? If shorter, what's the shortest you would go?

I run 2 9'6" rods on the high divers and 8'6" diver rids on the low divers.  

1 hour ago, HB2 said:

Just looked at the leader board . 

 

Is this the first time that in 2 days and a morning there are no fish at all registered ? 

Not suprising!  2012 we had a big blow on day one and no one weighed a king in until late Day 2.    

Just now, fisherman21 said:

700 firm 

I can't believe guys are trying to beat you up on this price!  They are $1,000+ new!  

39 minutes ago, HB2 said:

Lake was nice so I went out. 

 

Started in 90 ft . Temp was at 50 . My screen was looking crazy like there was a lot of interference . No boats around. Headed north out to 280 .

Screen cleared up around 220 . I don't know what it was . And temp went deeper to 75 80 . 

 

I went 3 for 5 . Got and 11 #  5 oz steelhead a Skipper and a little bigger than a skipper . Lost a nice fish on a slide diver . All spoons . Found a pod of fish and bait around 240 where I got 4 hits . 

70-85’ was good first light this morning and the last hour last night.  40-60’ down.  

On 8/14/2023 at 9:55 PM, Still dreaming said:

Thanks for the reply. Just so many colors of flys, spoons etc. It's crazy

I have hundreds of spoons/flies/flashers  and only use a handful of colors.  Stick with what works!  

I’m prepping spin n glos for the new for 2024 UV Snot Rocket Gambler Rig!  

It depends.  Are you not marking much? If I have a good screen and stuff isn't firing, I change. If I’m in search mode and haven’t marked much, I stick with my usuals.  

3 hours ago, Gill-T said:

Ya but our riggers don’t use Natural Gas so we will ok. 

I’m applying for a grant to put solar panels on the Escape II!  

9 hours ago, Silver Fox said:

For 1 footers and no rain?

I was thinking the same thing.  I ran the boat to Bald Eagle at 30mph on autopilot and never touched the wheel.  It was perfect.