Tall Tails

Nice Bark shot!

22 hours ago, Chuck Smth said:

The most concern for boat fisherman seems to be in this paragraph:

 

"Based on prey consumption every 2.4 Atlantic salmon stocked in Lake Ontario would require a reduction of one Chinook salmon. Increasing the total stocking cap is dependent on concurrent increases in the Lake Ontario preyfish population, and any increases to Atlantic salmon stocking would also be dependent on competing demands by other salmon and trout fisheries."

 

That said, given the entry barriers to new fishermen to start lake trolling this would be a nice addition for our stream brethren. In the long run, if more people have access to and enjoy great fishing, the more we all win.

 

Or - do what I'd like to see, stop with the salmonids and put stripers in the lake. THAT would be a fun fishery. Bigguns!

LOL!! Just to get you caught up on Great Lakes History that decision on stripers vs salmonids was made in the 1960's..  And rightly so.  As someone who has guided for both and caught plenty of both species the striper cant hold the KINGS beer!  A striper makes no blistering initial run like a king and a striper is a quiter...   

3 minutes ago, HB2 said:

The DEC cut the domestic rainbow program ( which was very successful for south shore tribe guys )  for more rearing space for brown trout . Seems to me that was done for the east end lake anglers who don't get the kings till later in the year . 

We asked for years for more domestic rainbows and less steelhead.  Were always told no even though domestics live more like a Brown trout and are more accessible to all anglers.  

4 minutes ago, Gill-T said:

I looked at the proposal and it doesn’t look like numbers of Atlantic stocked are any different than what they have been stocking.  

But are they reducing the chinook stockings because of it?  Instead of 50k this last year would they have given us 134k instead?  

36 minutes ago, GAMBLER said:

I sent a lengthy email.  Unreal that we continue to reinvent the wheel and it’s still the same after decades of trying….

This is to continually satisfy a few from Trout Unlimited.. There distain for Chinooks never ceases to amaze me. 

This is a lot of money to satisfy a few.... Please write and make public comments heard.  Anyone want to venture what the economic impact is?  I guarantee more dollars would be spent chasing an additional 84k in Chinooks then 200k Atlantics.... 

Looks like an easy one to make.  The dot color is sold in spray paint at Lowe's.  That is on an original chip too.  Larger fin and the chip holder gives that away. 

True Story.  Capt. Jeff Wallace  Co Captain of High Adventure Sportfishing had a client boat a 35.  Weighed on certified meat scale. 

Sabiki rigs.  Make sure you cut one hook off so you are not over the hook point limit.  Do it during the day.  

I think the management plan is more like Wild fish are going to be considered in the overall biomass when making hatchery decisions.   I don't see it as lowering our inputs from the hatchery   Not yet anyway.

Looking forward to seeing everyone tonight!

5 hours ago, GAMBLER said:

Check with Matt French too.  I know he has a lot of them.  

He isnt giving them up... LOL

Simrad or Garmin is a Great choice.  Raymarine has a long way to go on there fish finding capabilities.  I think the one thing that separates Simrad and Garmin is the specific mapping choice for Lake Ontario.  The Simrad Platinum Card has superior detail to any other brand.  As far as Radar, Autopilot they are relatively the same.  I love my Simrad units and I see no reason to change at all.  Now I do have a stand alone Garmin for Panoptics as well so that could be another consideration.   

Also make sure if it is a single bag you are running on the side of the boat the prop is spinning too.   So standard rotation spinning to the starboard make sure the bag is on the starboard side.  Also Ricks's suggestion of two smaller bags on each side could fix it as well. 

On 4/22/2022 at 7:58 AM, BILLY JOE said:

thanks guys  i wanted to pre order a case of Familiar Bite herring for my trip there in August any other ideas

Check around but Familiar bite has gone out of business.  ATOMMIK can set you up with what you need. 

The small craft is issued because of wind speed... there are thresholds for wind speed that dictate the warnings... come on man tell the whole story instead of just plugging..

Yes they are in there.  

Charter Lakes.  However everyone's rates are on the rise.  Cost of doing business.  Gotta love NYS requirement of 1 million in liability on Charter boats. 

29 minutes ago, CopperJon said:

Any speakers or seminars planned?

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Unfortunately due to the location and layout we can not have any speakers this year.  Our main focus was to have the swap.  Look for a more "Normal" event next year!  See you Saturday!

Yes this is on!  Next Saturday April 9th at the Mexico NY VFW.  Doors open at 9am sharp!! See you all there.

I don't run a smart troll system but I doubt there wont be any interference.   The panoptics signal rate is far to fast.  I have a simrad system and a fishhawk system running and I have zero interference from it.   I think you will be just fine. 

We will be selling our yearly raffle tickets for a chance at winning $1000.00 bucks.  All proceeds go to sending kids to DEC camp.

12 hours ago, rolmops said:

Hopefully by then this omacron wave will have fizzled out

Yes we expect a big crowd as everyone is ready to get back to normal.

3 minutes ago, Yankee Troller said:

 

You know someone is going to bring up Caledonia, and if they don't I will for sh*ts and giggles.

Vegas wouldn't even take that bet...