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    Monroe County Lake Trout Stocking

    in Open Lake Discussion

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    3 hours ago, Fat Trout said:

    Just curious ...and only curious...did they turn down atlantics or whatever would be pen reared?  I was talking with Bob at Salmon Country and from what I understood the Pen thing degraded into not enough help and he just didn't have the manpower to do it. He was telling me how long it took to wire tie the nets to the pen etc.   I don't even remember how it came up, probably because I saw the pen sitting there and asked him.  He was telling me something to the effect that those that might have helped had more interest in other things ie browns than steelhead or others.  I could be off, only asking again out of curiosity.  I realize that volunteer effort is insufficient generally speaking everywhere and usually falls on the shoulders of a very few. Admittedly, my knowledge is piece meal.  

    LOL Bob... So we had volunteers.  It got really difficult dealing with the Marina, so we had folks that live on the river volunteer to host the pens at there personal docks.  This group was all set to raise the steelhead when it came up at the State of Lake that there is no public fishing access to the little salmon river for the steelhead. After a bit of back and forth and I will leave it at that Steve Hurst DEC Director of Fisheries pulled the steelhead from the group.  We tried to ask for Kings and got told NO...  And let me throw this in one more time because I am tired of talking about it... THERE IS NO PEN REARING FOR BROWN TROUT!!!  We could hold them for 24 hours to allow them acclimate and that would be the extent of it.  We were then approached about the Atlantic Salmon and that makes no sense at all from any angle while we are in the middle of King Salmon cuts...  That is very much the short version if you would like more detail please feel free to PM me.

    Time for an upgrade: Salmon River fish hatchery slated for $5.2 million in improvements

    in Open Lake Discussion

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    We will take what we can get.  5.2 million in this construction market right now in CNY wont go very far but it is def better then nothing.  Labor rates on Capital Improvement projects will eat that up quick (IE rate job).  Many Many of our large commercial jobs right now are coming at 30 to 40% over initial estimates.  Limited labor force to meet demand and cost of goods have driven huge price increases.  I know a lot of people are going to find it hard to believe but commercial construction in Central NY is off the Chart right now.   It is good news however and we should not look a gift horse in the mouth.

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    New Steelhead Open Lake Fishing Reg Update

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    22 hours ago, Yankee Troller said:

     

     

     

    • I hear rumors of an Atlantic pen program in the SR

     

    Not a rumor.  ELOSTA was approached by the DEC to start Pen Raising Atlantics to try and increase survival.  Long story short we rejected the proposal based on a number of factors but the main one being the Atlantic is not a Viable Economic species to be stocked in the lake.  Especially at a time where the DEC is cutting stocking on Pacific Salmon based on alewife data that may or may not be correct.  Why would we encourage increased stocking survival of another species?? 

     

    My question is if the DEC likes to throw a Michigan scenario in our face at all these meetings why have they not proposed cutting any other species stocking?  It is widely known that Steelhead and Lake Trout consume massive amounts of Alewives.  It might be time to spread the wealth of the cuts....   

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    New Steelhead Open Lake Fishing Reg Update

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    11 hours ago, King Davy said:

    For the record and the Charter Boat Captains in the room can confirm at these panel discussions, trib anglers never asked for creel reductions on the lake. We asked for a size limit increase. It got turned down. The rest of the things we asked for were trib related only.


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    Never asked the room is accurate however the closed door meeting that took place at the hatchery where lake fisherman were banned from entering the room was probably a good place to start.  Oh and the money TU threw at the DEC I am sure helped as well.  I used to throw Steelhead back even if I was fun fishing.  Not anymore they are going to get the bat between the eyes just like the legal sized useless Atlantic...

     

    Keep the negative letters going to the public response folks.  The DEC lawyers in Albany don't like negativity at all.  The next thing these trib guys will want is the Brown trout lake limit reduced.... Mark my words..

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    Legacy -The 2019 Season-

    in Big / Small Game

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    I have literally sat in the middle of a cut field with the ghost blind with nothing around and had jr hunters kill deer during the youth season.  Tucked in anywhere they are deadly.  They are a great tool in the arsenal.  In fact the wife will be behind it this weekend in a apple orchard.   Just don't leave it out overnight as the dew will cover the mirror and it wont work.

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    Cellular game cameras

    in Big / Small Game

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    We use Coverts on our lease.  No complaints they have been solid.  You better be prepared however.... At work when your shooter walks by will happen  :)   Or in our case my wife was ten minutes from putting the turkey on the table at Thanksgiving!  And it was the buck she was chasing.. LOL  It was only the second daylight picture we got of him all year....

    Lack of small kings

    in Open Lake Discussion

    Posted

    21 hours ago, GAMBLER said:

    I believe the issue is the DEC went to spring stocking of coho instead of stocking in the fall.  The fall stockers survival rate is way better.  Spring stockers cost less $ and demand less man hours. 

    They certainly have made room for the Atlantic program at the hatchery by moving and cutting....

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    Lack of small kings

    in Open Lake Discussion

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    The Lack of skippers is the cuts showing up.  No one should act surprised by this.  The only thing that saves us is a great year class of naturals.  We need to start talking about protecting vital spawning habit in our creeks and rivers.

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    Best Western Oswego

    in Open Lake Discussion

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    2 hours ago, Adk1 said:

    Do you know if the Port Authority Marina has slips available for short term rental?

    They do give them a call.  It is called Oswego Marina.  Last I talked to them they were booked solid but it is always worth a phone call.

    What launches are open

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    You can launch at Wrights Landing but there are no services and you are on your own. Kind of like if you were duck hunting and using the launch in December.  Mexico pt is also open for business.  Going west, Olcott is also open and probably has the best fishing right now.  Pack boots no matter where you are going.

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