Jolly II

Question......

If wind power is so great... Why does it need government subsidies, tax incentives and other programs to develop and maintain them????

I was just talking to a Lake Ontario boater this weekend, who didn't understand the opposition to these offshore wind farms. I started his lesson in posing that same question to him. He had no idea that the government, state and federal, gives the development companies tax payer money in order to build, and maintain these things. He didn't even know how they worked. He assumed they were like a backyard turbine, producing DC current to charge a bank of batteries and then it gets converted to AC power and put to the grid. I informed him that they put AC current directly to the grid, and if they can't produce power at 60 Hz, even when the wind blows, they shut themselves down. He didn't even know about the discussion of an exclusion zone, or even the manufacturer suggested safety zone.

Needless to say, by the end of the 20 minute conversation he clearly understood the opposition to them. The thing about this gentleman that bothered me, he has been sitting next to me in my captain's license prep class. Just a good example of how uneducated most people are on this so called green movement.

Chris

Thanks guys for all the kind words and thoughts. We will miss him dearly, and he is always in my thoughts, and thinking of him a lot, especially as I study for an upcoming captain's test, and prepare my boat for the 2011 fishing season.

Tom and Dad have had a tremendous amount of influence in my life. From a very young age I was on the boat fishing for trout and salmon in any weather. And in those days they were pretty tough guys. I learned the ropes quickly, as well crucial biological lessons because of the time that Tom and my father spent with me. I'm going to miss all the off-the-wall schemes he got us into fishing, bowhunting, and rabbit hunting. I think of them still now and chuckle to myself.

We'll remember the man, and celebrate his life. His legacy will live on for a very long time, as I will always be telling stories about him, and pass on all the biology that goes into our world class fishery.

Thanks Uncle Tom.

Now.. I just need to figure out how he grew football sized sweet potatoes.

Chris AKA Jolly II

Has Been,

I remember as a kid that happening a bunch of times. I don't remember exactly how we rigged it, but I'm sure the set up was similar to how you rigged it up. 2 lakers on the same rod, a laker and a skipper on the same rod. I even think one trip to the Bar with Dad and my Uncle Tom we landed a laker and a pretty decent salmon. LOL The good old days! But I think the good old days are back!

I got to talk him into a sight modification to the design so that we can run lead core and copper off the big boards. See if he wants to tap into that year round side planer fishery.

If anyone needs releases, or replacement pads and hardware you can PM on here and I'll send the contact for my Dad, same contact info that Mudflat posted above.

Thanks guys! Looking forward to ice out, and getting some browns!

Chris

Thanks for posting Tom. I go every year as I feel it's important to be as informed as possible about our fishery, and also to make our voices heard.

All the information above is right. My Dad is still making releases, and also sells the replacement rubber pads and hardware.

Thanks for posting the info Time Out and Mudflat.

Chris

It's been awhile since I did my homework on the electrical charge question, but it was more related to downriggers.

At the time I had an aluminum boat and I was thinking about putting a black box on my boat, but essentially talked myself out of it. But I did check the electrical charge of my rigger wires. I did this about 6 years and I had manual Proos riggers, an all aluminum designed rigger.

I hope I remember right, you preform the test with a voltage meter. Basically you have to have all electronics off on the boat, maybe even disconnect the positive battery terminal, and you touch one probe to your Negative on the battery, ,and the other to the downrigger cable. Any voltage read is stray voltage. I would think you could perform the same test on the copper if you wanted to experiment on a slow day. Would be interesting to see the results.

Check the internet on how to do the test as I'm going on memory for the procedure. Perhaps some one else on here has tested it on their boat.

I've usually ran 50' leads on both my lead core and copper lines. After some good shared info above I think that will be changed for this season. Thanks for sharing Guys.

On my boat both presentations have their time and purpose. Like Chowder just said, I use core when targeting fish in the upper 50 feet of the water column. Mostly in May and June. When the fish are deeper, then I run 400' 450' or 500' coppers.

When I put copper on a sideplaner I put rig the prower pro backing into the release. However, with lead core, I have on occassions put the core in the side planer release like when I want to only run 6 colors. You have to be careful when doing this so as to not damage the lead core, and using releases with rubber pinch pads helps this.

Holy Buckets Ray!! That's funny!

This is the way I look at this. More rods for the new guy on the lake equals more opportunity for success. Which means once that person is hooked, he or she will spend more money on their passion.

Another thing.... Our license fees just went up 50%, it would be nice to see something for that since that $10 increase is probably going to the general fund, and not into our fishery. Being able to run a third rod, or lengthening the deer season are good ways to make things right with sportsmen and women across the state.

In terms of impacts to the fishery, with the current possession limits, I doubt that there will be any noticeable impacts to the fishery, or to the adult returns to the stream. Things that probably do impact the fishery, that some people are disillusioned by thinking they are positive changes, are regulations like having to release 21" steelhead.

Another thing is, isn't the DEC every year saying the forage basin is stressed for predation. If that's case.. a three rod rule, and an increased harvest rate, not catch and release, would have a positive impact on the forage basin. However I also think that is a bit of song and dance by the DEC and fishery experts, considering the questionable science that has been done in the recent past.

So yes to 3 rods!!!

I like how it's approved for 01-06 cars. So that must mean that's it automatically ok for my 92 Chevy Pick-up?? WTF!!

I like how they think it's all environmental. What a joke. It directly competes with food by driving the price of corn up, and then all the farmers want to plant more corn, which means less supply in other crops, soybeans, wheat, rice, driving the price up on those crops. Which we end up paying for trying to feed our families.

On top of all that it supports mono agriculture, which is the direct culprit of the dust bowl, and completely rapes the nutrients in the top soil, which then forces farmers to use chemical fertilizers to maintain the productivity of their fields.

I'm sure if I did more homework on the subject I could come up with some more stuff.

Not mention all the stuff you guys have already mentioned.

You're right, is the simple case of some one rich getting richer.

Probably the simplest and most inexpensive option is to modify your existing canvas top. Not as simple as it sounds. You could use the existing frame, I'm not sure without looking at it, but I think you would just have to shorten the frame a little, to accomdate a shorter canvas with the same height. The side curtains would have to be redone, which can be expesive depending on the clear vinyl material that you use. As for the top itself, that's the easiest part, take out the stitching, trim off the desired amount, and re-hem it to accomodate the framing.

If you're handy, and in an extreme crunch for money (as I often am), you can do this yourself. I did a complete replacement top for my 21' Sportcraft last winter. Certainly not as nice as Steve's custom canvas, but it looks good and keeps us out of the sun, wind, and rain.

If you have the money, I'd hire someone to do it.

I too still have top envy, but it's deffinately not as bad as it was. Good Luck.

Chris

Hey!! Thanks Buddy! I haven't been on here in a few weeks. Thanks for thinking of me!

I have killed handful of deer with the extreme quartering towards me, almost head on shot. All have been less than 15 yards. At that range I haven't had any problems with penetration, and with a well placed shot a deer will never go far.

I now have new bow, and might try that shot out to 20 if that's the opportunity I'm given.

Hopefully this weekend something will happen and I'll be coming to visit Woody184.

I'd say a very interesting trail cam picture. Looks like a real nice one.

Same story for our trip out of Sandy on Sunday morning. We noticed a real strong current down deep, and made our set up really tough. We tangled a dipsy into a rigger, and then the same dipsy ended up in the copper. Tough start.

You're right about those fish being deep, even the bait was below 100. We never moved a rod until later in the morning, and managed 2 steelies. By then it was time for us to pack it up and head in. Would've like another 3 hours, seems like some of the guys started doing better out a little deeper as the morning turned into the afternoon.

Thanks for your reports Rick. Hopefully the weather won't mess things up again for this weekend.

Nice fish you guys!! Well worthy of bragging rights for a long time with a fish like that.

Cornelis,

If you don't want to run a full core behind the planer board, you can put a rubber band on the lead core, using a larkshead knot, which then will go into the release. With a smasher like that fish, the damage will happen to the rubber band rather than to your lead core. When fighting the fish you can just reel the rubber band into the reel and worry about that later when you're resetting the rod.

I do the same thing for when I run copper on the boards, but the rubber band gets tied to the Power Pro backing, as I run all the copper in the water when being pull from behind the boards.

I hope this helps.

Chris

That's OUTSTANDING Tim!! Way to go!

After reading the article looks like they also need to hire new security

I had a similar problem about 6 years ago with a 10 horse honda, 4-stroke. The oil smelled like it was contaminated with fuel. Changed the oil, and after about 3 hours of trolling, same problem occurred. I took it to Seagar marine in Canandaigua, they check compression and that was OK. They noticed the engine was not warming up properly. Turns out the thermostat was shot. When the thermostat fails, it fails full open so the engine will not over heat, but the engine can not come up to proper operating temperature. Because of that, unburned fuel can pass by the piston rings and contaminate the oil.

I like Seagar marine. They have Honda mechanics, and have taken very good care of me in the past and would recommend them if you need service on a Honda outboard.

Chris

Idn,

Keep at it. My dipsies were completely silent last weekend, 8/7, out of sandy creek. Even took a good rip on the riggers and managed to lose my second Gator spoon of the year, would love a do over on that one. I've been doing this thing since I was 4 years old with my Dad and Uncle, and I'm still learning. Sometimes I've just completely stumped and frustrated, had one of those days on day 1 of the Wayne County ProAM.

I used the basic Garmin Etrex hand held for years as a GPS unit. I helped me to keep track or speed, position, and I could set way points to get me back on the fish. Also, it's a big lake, a GPS is pretty handy to get you back to port if weather or fog moves in, or to relay your position in an emergency.

Seems you've got the right spoon patterns for salmon, if you can afford a few flasher/fly combos to add to your arsenal do it. I tend to fish flasher/fly combos on my dipsies because that is what produces big kings for me. If you need ideas on what flasher/flies have been good, read the reports and take notes on colors. If you're fishing out over 100 FOW don't be afraid to run 300-350 feet of line out. Get your stuff deep.

As for the browns... I usually don't run dipsies when targeting browns, unless there are kings mix in with them. Most of my summer brown action comes on riggers.

Just stick with it, take notes, talk to everybody you can, keep asking questions, and read everything you can get your eyes on.

Chris

Glad you got out Lou, thanks for the report. I hoping I can make something happen and get on the water this Saturday. We'll see.

Usually this time of year the steelies I catch are out deeper when I'm fishing for salmon, but they are higher in the water colunm, they like a little warmer water than the kings do. I often get them on a higher set rigger, or free sliders (when I run them).

As for the browns.... they are usually in closer where the thermocline meets the bottom. Look for water temp 50-60 degrees and start there. Go with a spoon program on the riggers, and then dipsies with spoons, and if you have it, copper or lead core. As far as spoon patterns, black and silver, green NBKs, dirty white boy. I'm sure the others on here have their go to brown trout spoons.

I hope this helps to get you started. I'm no pro, but I have targeted browns before when I've been in your situation.

Good Luck.

Chris

A trick my buddy Dave showed me with the roemers is very simple and all you need is about 12 inches of spare/junk line.

Just take that piece of junk line, like 20lb test or heavier, and tie it to the rope of your cable retriever (I'm assuming you have long arm downriggers) with about a 6-8 inch tag end. Once your bottom line is rigged and you are ready to lower the rigger to 10 feet, close the jaws of the roemer on the tag end of that piece of junk line. Then as you lower your rigger down to where you are placing the stacker the line holds the roemer as the cable slides through. Then just pull in your cable retriever, and open the roemer back up and rig your stacker line.

Best part is, doesn't cost anything, doesn't require any tools, and there is usually plenty of junk fishing line in the boat for a replacement.

Chris

Wow!! Great fish Dave!! 2 of those in a lifetime, that's even better!!

Chris

I think it helped us out, we managed to box 6 fish on Sunday in those waves, plus a throw back Atlantic, and a mess of stockers. Thanks for the info Rick.