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Here we go again. And nobody will bother to put floating docks in. Thank God for Newfane Marina, the only people that had the sense to install floating docks. Niagara State Park and all the rest will be unusable AGAIN for the second time in the past 3 years. Some blue barrels and treated lumber and you could build them at a very reasonable price.

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Looks like he is indicted, not convicted. Less presume innocent until proven guilty. This is what I would expect for myself, and anyone else in this country. We've seen too many cases of high profile folks being assumed guilty before proven guilty. Patience. Let the facts be what they may once it comes to trial.

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On 11/29/2019 at 6:17 PM, wishinfishin said:

PA gun opener tomorrow.
Good luck to everyone. !
I m sure there are some New York guys traveling south to pa for more deer action

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Well thank God! My buddy from Idaho and I both got a buck in Pennsylvania the first day. Good thing because the Iroquois Wildlife refuge has been no good for me at all this year. Here is a picture of us with our Bucks. We both have identical Rifles. Remington 700 mountain rifle, in .280 caliber. Now we're back in the swamp to try and change our luck here. My 44th year.

On 11/29/2019 at 8:03 PM, bondouley said:

Its still in legislation. From what ive heard the farming community doesnt want it

 

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I don't know why farm community is opposed. All their land is posted anyways. They could open it up for public land. The bill was passed a couple days ago. 

On 11/28/2019 at 7:52 PM, Gill-T said:

I believe they start deer hunting on the reservation in September. They are known to cross over the border of their sovereign nation onto the WMA and even private land with their AR rifles. Guys I know sitting in treestands during bow season have had native hunters walk under them and flip them the bird. Kind of scary facing someone with an AR while you have a bow. 

I don't  hunt near the reservation anymore. My reason though is that off judge road it sounds like Armageddon on the first day of pheasant season! The attraction to me was the huge alfalfa fields. But trail cameras didn't reveal that many deer visiting them. 

12 hours ago, idn713 said:

Sitting in my truck waiting for this to blow over. I HATE hunting in the rain. Cold is one thing, but I don’t do wet. 

Yes it sucks. I bought a tree umbrella. Works great if you are standing.

On 11/27/2019 at 4:25 PM, BLOCKHEAD said:

I pushed a lot of deer during  this  duck and pheasant season .  Saw plenty of kooks and poachers. Guys walking around with rifles weeks before season opener. Deer were bedding in flooded timber . Cant tell u how many carcasses my dog found with just the head cut off. Or just the backstraps removed.  Almost every parking area had deer dumped within 50 yds.  REAL HUNTERS , with basic knowledge/ skills were in short supply.  I cover miles and miles, running a ridiculously conditioned gun dog . To be blunt, I could write tickets sun up ,to. Sun down if I was DEC. Carlton hill and iroquois were dumpster fires in my opinion.  Crossbow hunters aren't the problem.  

Blockhead, just wondering if you were hunting near the Tonawanda reservation? I think the Indians deer season comes in before ours. Could this explain folks walking around with rifles early? As for the dead deer, heads cut off, disgusting. I've hunted the Iroquois Wildlife refuge for 14 or 15 years and I've never seen a game warden! I think you May be onto something, poachers and  I believe coyotes (from the tracks I see) are taking a toll. Without a dog , we have no idea these dead deer are out there. With your dog, you are finding them. I love the swamp. So diverse. But if I had an alternative, I would not hunt it as much. Tried Carlton Hill and it is hunted heavier than the Refuge, so I gave that up.

Well I finally saw two deer today. Passed on a medium doe. Kicked a buck up in goldenrod redbrush and missed. 

On 8/25/2019 at 9:57 PM, landingzone said:

Thanks for the DIY suggestions. I may try that.
Still interested in more sausage processor recommendations.



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I have yet to find a good one so I make my own out of con Yeager spices and recipe book. Zielionople Pennsylvania. My favorite is the PA deer bologna spice.

1 hour ago, GAMBLER said:

Years ago there were way more hunters and less scent control technology. How did anyone kill a deer back then?


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For one thing, there was no posted land. This spread hunters out back then. In NY, it was shotgun only and saved alot of deer. I was raised on rifles in Pennsylvania so know the effectiveness of s Rifle versus a shotgun. Now, with everything posted, public land is hunted very heavily. This has a huge impact. I can hunt the swamp most of the day,  not see a deer. Get in my truck and drive home and see deer feeding in the open Fields in broad daylight. On posted land of course. There was very little shooting the the first day thus year.  I don't have a theory yet for this year, being slow, but I appreciate the comments and ideas. One thing I'm pretty sure of, once rifle season gets here, in the swamp they are nocturnal. That, along with the astronomical amount of impenetrable cover, is a tough combination. 

This just goes to show you that these big old bucks can virtually disappear from the landscape but they are still there! Also, there's bucks we have no idea about, in the areas we hunt. What a terrific surprise! I am hunting a mile square that captured five great bucks on the same trail camera back in  jusSeptember. I have not seen them yet after 40 hours on stands there. But I keep trying because I know they are nearby since early September they were in their home area not chasing does all over the county. It keeps me going through many long days with no deer sighted at all.

9 hours ago, thumbburn said:

I will bite...... why is it no bow course needed to crossbow hunt?.... IF it is the same... killing by cutting and bleeding..then why a mzldr permit required.....


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Please, let's not derail this post into an argument over crossbow versus archery hunting. I personally use bow, crossbow, inline mz, flintlock, and rifle. This is about the slow year, lack of deer sighted in the Iroquois National Wildlife refuge this year, and possible reasons. Thanks.

On 11/22/2019 at 2:23 PM, Gator said:

IMHO, crossbow's popularity have the deer acting like it's gun season two weeks early. If it weren't for the rut, I think they'd have disappeared by opening day. It's not all the banging that gets the deer riled up, it's the constant intrusion into their bedrooms.

I believe you are right. A very marked increase in pressure on the first day of crossbow. So they have the deer in nocturnal mode. In addition, the relative lack of quantity of tracks in the snow I saw in January and February of 2019, shows a reduced number of deer. Coyote? Maybe disease? I saw several deer on my August trail cams that looked like sick skeletons. I wondered if they had cwd they looked so bad. Not sure what, but definitely sick and diseased. Could be they had just been wounded or something. 

On 11/23/2019 at 3:26 PM, Duckman1 said:

My neighbor was out there today. He said he saw alot also bagged a nice old 9pt.
Iroquois and Tonawanda are huge areas.
If you can get nack off the road 45min + walk or more you should see deer. I used to hunt it but the drag just about kills you.

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Believe me that's not the issue.  I go farther than 90% of the people. I even had to debone a doe and pack the meat out two years ago. I think several others have pointed out one reason, the crossbow season is the new Rifle season. I saw a marked increase in hunters on first day of crossbow 

15 hours ago, Legacy said:

November 21 pm
46 degrees
SE wind 5-10
Cloudy
Becoming scattered rain

Quiet sit. One young buck after dusk came by and that would be it in my 2.5 hour sit. I heard a ton of shooting after 445. A ton.

Combine has arrived so I would imagine by Sunday all the corn will be gone.

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Good, standing corn sucks for deer hunting. Especially if it's on posted land.

10 hours ago, Lilogundog said:

Me and my wife bought a new house over the summer and she just told me I cant mount any deer or ducks on our living room wall... anybody have a good divorce lawyer?

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Mine are in the garage. Same restriction was placed on me. Getting Dusty. Now I just cut their antler's off.

Yes, I find every year the deer especially bucks become nocturnal. With the cattails and impenetrable multiflora rose and thickets, you are not going to get them once they go nocturnal. The only possibility is a rut crazy buck, or very inclement weather to make them get off their feet in daylight. But I can usually take a doe or two, and I usually pass up a small buck or two during Rifle. Not so far this year though. Tough year.

I've hunted the Iroquois Wildlife refuge extensively and exclusively for the last 15 years. It is the closest public land for me to hunt. I don't have access to any private property. I can tell you this is the slowest year I have had. Very few deer sighted. Not alot of tracks in the snow. I can tell you my deer scouting started last January and February during the government shutdown since I was out of work. I canvassed huge swaths of the swamp walking miles. I put out trail cameras in September. I started hunting archery October first. In archery I saw four bucks. Two small ones, and three shooters but no shot. Only three does! I've hunted three days in Rifle and have not seen a deer. Now, I'm sure by now many reading this are thinking I don't know how to hunt. This is my 44th year of hunting. Only once in 44 years have I not taken a deer. I've taken by my estimate 60 to 70 deer, two elk, 25 gobblers. I am a still Hunter,  and a stand hunter. I hunt both PA (where) I'm from, and NY. I cannot explain what is happening in the refuge with the deer population. There is extensive cover that is impenetrable to a man. My belief has been the deer become nocturnal by rifle season. But that doesn't explain my experience earlier in the year. 

Yes I just read an article that said a few States studied this for years looking at thousands of fawn fetuses and back dating them to conception. Their conclusion was the peak of the rut in all the States they studied was November 15! Makes no difference about weather, moon phase, etc. The study has shown for year, it was mid November.

They certainly weren't moving on veteran's day. One doe all day.

Ok well for me I really did not see much rut activity this year. I hunted up through Nov 11 veterans day for archery then called it a season until Saturday rifle. T I'm not confident in my location. I have nice bucks on my trail camera from August and September, then it kind of dried up. I'm hunting along some thick bedding areas. Hopefully the rifle opener will have them moving. I saw someone on veterans day and he said the peak of the rut in the swamp was two weeks ago. Without acorns I guess I just couldn't find the high doe density areas which I know is where you want to be in peak rut.

14 hours ago, dvdegeorge said:

It’s a ghost town
Cameras have gone dead
I think I’m gonna back out for a couple day


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Yes, I agree things have been slow for me so far this year too. That's why I think the rut is delayed. Hoping it picks up now after today,  Nov 7

On 10/30/2019 at 9:40 AM, Gill-T said:

 
Gary please tell me you are not part of the deer drive hunters that walk thru brush blowing crow calls in Alabama?

No. I hunt alone until my buddy comes from Idaho after Thanksgiving. Then we hunt PA and NY rifle. I still hunt, or stand as conditions allow.

3 hours ago, Gill-T said:

Garrymny, I saw a ton of 1.5 year olds dead on the side of the road on the I-90 from rt. 77 exit to Buffalo during the second and third weeks in October as I traveled to pheasant country.  I too have not seen much chasing, scraping and rubbing activity this year either, however, it has been REALLY warm.  I think you will see a stark change in the coming days.  I have also noticed that the deer are really keying on acorns.  I have watched deer feeding for hours under acorn trees on neighboring property, 10' from corn fields.  Find the acorns, you find the hub of breeding activity.  The buck I got last night came into a grunt call.  

Yep. I always hunt acorns. But there are very few if any in the Alabama swamp this year. Frost must have got them.

On 10/30/2019 at 9:40 AM, Gill-T said:

 
Gary please tell me you are not part of the deer drive hunters that walk thru brush blowing crow calls in Alabama?

No. I hunt alone until my buddy comes from Idaho after Thanksgiving. Then we hunt PA and NY rifle. I still hunt, or stand as conditions allow.