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Going to try 49 strand (7 x 7) stainless steel wire. I had read in some other posts I saw that people had switched from the Cannon 7 strand to 49. I found this product on ebay (from Australia lol) and bought it. https://www.ebay.com/itm/323970070042. 98kg equates to 216 lb test which is 66 lb better rating than Cannon's wire and the diameter is very similar, only 0.004 bigger. It still goes through the Cannon terminators with a little help and the line counter should still be accurate. The 49 strand wire seems much easier to work with -- it doesn't have nowhere near the stiff "memory" of the 7 strand which can really tangle, twist, and kink easily. I'm looking forward to seeing how it performs. If this doesn't work well, I suppose I will try braid like many have started using. The Malin wire company out of Cleveland also makes 49 strand but I was having trouble finding a diameter that was that close to the original cannon wire.
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Appreciate your efforts Yankee -- you're a good man. I will be sure to pay closer attention to the how the line is winding. Crazy there isn't some sort of level-wind guide on these... hopefully they will incorporate into future designs. What made you switch to braid? Any problems with fleas?
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Buying some new downrigger reels - Tekota or Saltist
ErieBuck replied to Dan M's topic in Tackle Description
Do you guys still buy the line counter version of the reels for your downrigger rods? That's all I've ever bought because the price isn't much different, but I may pick up a couple non-line counter Tekotas to use on the riggers. Only thing I don't like about them is how far the line counter sticks out which can get in the way a bit while reeling for people who aren't used to them and it makes the below deck storage on my boat a little challenging. -
Wire on 1500$ downriggers shouldn't snap that easy... it's ridiculous. They need to address the problem that so many are experiencing. Google it -- this isn't a couple incidents with newbies. Step 1 would be for Cannon to acknowledge there is a problem, which it appears based on my experience with them, they aren't really good at listening. Step 2 would be to start equipping these powerful modern downriggers with cable that can actually handle the routine stresses they face out on the lake. The cable is probably the cheapest component and they are using the same stuff from the manual crank days. It's like putting donut spare tires on a Ferrari.
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Pappy, what cable did you go with, are you happy with it?
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I’m glad they at least sent you new cable, they didn’t even offer to that for me. I’m not happy Sent from my iPhone using Lake Ontario United mobile app
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Totally agree - for whatever reason it seems they haven’t improved their cable and these motors get more and more powerful Sent from my iPhone using Lake Ontario United mobile app
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https://www.ebay.com/itm/323970070042 Bought this stuff... seems very nice. 216lb test and only ~.004 bigger in diameter, still goes through terminator with a little help. Much more supple and less prone to kink. Looking forward to giving it a try. Thanks Cannon for all your help lol Sent from my iPhone using Lake Ontario United mobile app
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Yes!!!!!!!!! Sent from my iPhone using Lake Ontario United mobile app
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Cannon terminator Swivel snap ——> Blacks release ——> Fish Hawk ——> snubber swivel snap ———> snubber ———> snubber swivel snap ——-> ball. Same on other side but without the fish hawk. Sent from my iPhone using Lake Ontario United mobile app
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Yep, i kept saying that it seemed that auto up was fixed at 5, but Cannon customer service insisted differently, I must drawn the new guy! I’m running them 45 degrees off the back corners. Could have something to do with spooling to the side, especially on my first two losses. I’ve tried to use the hook as a guide but I haven’t mastered that technique yet. If I see it building up on one side, I use my hand to manually guide it over until even while going up slowly. Sent from my iPhone using Lake Ontario United mobile app
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Thank you sir! The last time it snapped, I simply hit the auto up button and it broke. Big wave may have created a little slack in the line right before I hit the button. This was with only a 12lb ball and I had a snubber on. I was not on the bottom. The line was frayed where it snapped somewhere above the cannon terminator, it definitely was not from a bad termination. Bye bye fish hawk #2. Fish Hawk #1 was lost when the ball bounced slightly out of the water a bit in rough seas (15lb shark). Another time, I got hung up on bottom my fault. The other time, I can't even remember, I was too pissed. I'm scared to run 15lb anymore, and I'm using snubbers to absorb any kind of shock. Also, I've slowed down the motor to "2" but it seems like the auto-up still is super fast. I've inspected the whole line for kinks and I'm careful not to let it spool up on one side. Maybe I got a bad batch of cable -- just seems it's WAY to snappy! I just don't have faith in their cable anymore and I just can't afford any more breaks. I'm going to try 49 strand wire next season perhaps. Thanks in advance for any advice!
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super cool! do you unplug and remove when done for the day or just leave in place? -
Buying some new downrigger reels - Tekota or Saltist
ErieBuck replied to Dan M's topic in Tackle Description
The new Tekota A was a huge upgrade from my Daiwa Sealines, soooo smooth and love the drag. Now you guys got me curious about the Saltist! Might need to pick up a few to replace my remaining sealines. -
Just curious if anyone out there has any experience with Cannon and their customer service team? I bought two optimum TS this year and have had lots of trouble with the line snapping and losing my gear from various circumstances. After spending $3k on downriggers, I didn't expect to lose another $1k in gear. At a minimum, I expected Cannon to at least "care" and provide some sort of advice to make sure I could regain confidence in their equipment. After contacting them, they had some tech email me a few questions, didn't provide any input and basically said, "oh well, good luck!" Hopefully, I'm just an outlier who slipped through the cracks. I just found this strange with how advanced their products are and their fancy marketing etc. I have been extremely impressed with the customer service from other fishing industry companies -- but Cannon unfortunately has been very disappointing. Maybe I should have bought Scotty?
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Rookie, do you have a pic of your setup at the stern? On second thought maybe I shouldn’t even tempt myself haha Sent from my iPhone using Lake Ontario United mobile app
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Excellent hope you enjoy it! It’s pretty slick and user friendly Sent from my iPhone using Lake Ontario United mobile app
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The Axiom is awesome -- using mine with Navionics Platinum Plus card and the Raymarine Evolution 150 Autopilot. That combo has caught me hundreds maybe thousands of fish in my first two years as a boat owner. Don't underestimate the chart card -- it's critical to put your boat in areas more likely to have fish rather than just randomly trolling around. It's the only system I've ever owned, so it's hard for me to compare, but people who come on my boat are blown away. Like Rookie, I probably would have considered the Element, which is geared more exclusively to fishing I think, but it wasn't quite released yet. Some of the multi-functionality of the Axiom I probably will never use (like radar, video cameras, flying a drone!!, etc.). Can the Element integrate with Autopilot? That's really nice to be able to touch your chart and have your boat drive itself there. Also the Axiom is able to integrate with my engine data which is nice to have all my data in one spot. I would compare the capabilities of the built in sounder module of Axiom to Element -- what is the power capability and transducer compatibility? I have the RV-100 transom mount and the high frequency CHIRP is incredible -- high definition. You can spot lake trout /Kings laying in the mud in 120 ft of water, you can clearly spot game fish amongst bait clouds etc. This setup can have some limitations in deeper water; some report ~300 ft as about where it starts to taper off as the RV-100 is only 250 watts I believe. Mounting it properly is very critical for the deep water and going into manual settings (gain/zoom etc) in the deep can still deliver good results. The Axiom Pro has a much stronger sounder module (and much bigger price tag) built in to be able to handle 600-1000w CHIRP transducers for high definition deep water fishing (mainly ocean!). I ended up adding a traditional 600w Airmar through hull transducer (not CHIRP) to my setup via/ Y adapter cable to have the option to use in 500 ft+ for my future summer King road trips. However, after re-mounting my RV-100 properly prior to my second trip this year, it performed fine in the 300s... didn't have the chance to test it in the 500s.
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Did not have any luck finding the stagers...we targeted the bottom in 80-110 FOW and marked very little with only one strike but it got came off. Buddy of mine had caught over 20 matures in the same area the week prior. The weather and wind were not great which definitely didn't help. The constant east wind has brought in the ice water - i was marking 48 degrees only 30 feet down. We were able to salvage the trip by moving out into 300 FOW and finally found some bait in one particular area which we pounded for several hours producing a 15 lb immature King and 12 steelhead, almost all good size. Disappointing regarding the matures, but glad I was able to get my first two experiences on Lake Ontario this year -- looking forward to next year! Thanks for everyone's help!
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Olcott...Any good fishing?
ErieBuck replied to Hacrwj's topic in New York Fishing Reports - Lake Ontario (South Shore)
On the way out at 1pm a guy said he caught one. It was pitch black on the way back in and it was a hurricane so couldn’t tell! Sent from my iPhone using Lake Ontario United mobile app -
Olcott...Any good fishing?
ErieBuck replied to Hacrwj's topic in New York Fishing Reports - Lake Ontario (South Shore)
There were about 30 guys fishing the olcott pier yesterday. Sent from my iPhone using Lake Ontario United mobile app -
Olcott...Any good fishing?
ErieBuck replied to Hacrwj's topic in New York Fishing Reports - Lake Ontario (South Shore)
Same - fished olcott yesterday - went 0/1. Dead. ICE WATER. 48 degrees only 35 ft down! Current was wicked, hard to get a good troll. Wind kicked up big time and ruined the prime time evening bite to top off a crappy day. Hopefully today is better, still blowing hard out of the NE. Sent from my iPhone using Lake Ontario United mobile app -
Sorry to hear that, hope you can get it fixed soon. Sept oct nov is great fishing Sent from my iPhone using Lake Ontario United mobile app
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Matt -- have you had any luck with Lakers recently? I went out to North East area to practice my King program for my upcoming Ontario trip and was hoping to hook up a few Lakers but I couldn't find them. I was working north of the mountain in about 100-110 FOW then ducked south of the mountain with no luck. Saw few marks on the bottom. Marks were all mid water column which I assumed were walleye. Funny I caught a walleye off the bottom in 47 degrees water in 100 FOW on a flasher and spinfish! I know the lakers will be in tight in a month or so to spawn which is a riot to with the jigging rod, but I wasn't sure where they are in this in-between time. I caught over 200 of them in the spring with dipsey w/ flashers and spin n glows and then later in the spring it was all spoons. I never had much luck with the cow bells, which I hear are better off riggers.
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HB2 and Tuff -- good stuff thank you! Would you guys say J-plugs are most effective at first light and not as much during the day? Trying to get a strategy together for my 3 day trip. Going to stick with Wire flasher flies on dipsey's but will need to figure out a winning combination of twinkie meat rigs, J-plugs, spoons on the riggers. I know the staging Kings are not wanting to eat but people are still catching a lot of fish with meat rigs I'm hearing. The flashing and spinning combined with the scent I guess is enough to get their attention and elicit a strike. Obviously, I'll see what the fish are wanting by throwing everything at them, but it would be nice to have at least a starting strategy for the riggers.
